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Die PiS-Männer love these riots to increase their approval rate, but they also love bullsh1tting the population that they are against letting Third Worlders in. In fact, they let 135,000 workers from Muslim-majority countries into Poland in 2022.
 
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Are the law enforcement agencies having any luck putting this down?
 
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>son of north african illegal immigrant
>father leaves before he's born
>stopped going to high school after 6 months
>stole cars and dealt drugs for a living
>too young to have a criminal record
>resisted arrest 5 times in 2 years

That's who they are rioting over...
 
They simply don't try, otherwise "racists" and "fascists"
I wonder how many of the people who have been calling the border control supporters racists and fascists have been woken up by this rebellion. Most are probably in denial and don't care until it hits them personally.
 
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>son of north african illegal immigrant
>father leaves before he's born
>stopped going to high school after 6 months
>stole cars and dealt drugs for a living
>too young to have a criminal record
>resisted arrest 5 times in 2 years

That's who they are rioting over...
Just like George Floyd. In short, it's not about the individual. It's about the rebellion, the looting, and the wanton destruction.
 
Just like George Floyd. In short, it's not about the individual. It's about the rebellion, the looting, and the wanton destruction.

Yes.

More videos are surfacing everyday and, to my surprise, a lot of them are taken from my hometown. A place that is not known for that kind of thing, specifically, though popular violence erupts "when the time comes".
What surprised me, in addition to recognizing the town, was to note these clashes took place at the same 100-50m diameter area at more or less the same hour.

It isn't about far-left activists anymore, they have left the scene a long time ago, now it's about youths from the suburbs against local residents.

Interestingly enough, yes, the far-leftists have, for some reason, "vanished". They left a few scribbles on the walls such as "RIP Nahel tué par l'état" ("RIP Nahel, killed by the state") and that's it. It is funny to note, though, that it is pretty easy to make the distinction between graffiti left by lefties and those left by youths: you can actually read and understand a graffiti left by a lefty. You usually can't when it is done by a youth from the suburbs.
 
Can any of our French members confirm if the following is true:

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I found this on CNN-18:

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Can any of our French members confirm if the following is true:

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I found this on CNN-18:

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At the moment I am not seeing anything going along these lines.

Macron's statement is rather vague. It is done purposefully or is it a display of improvisation in the face of urgency? I don't know.

But "we will take appropriate measures to remove media with potentially sensitive content" is a very broad statement that does not specify anything in itself. What are these measures? What makes them "appropriate"? What is "potentially sensitive content"? How is it defined? Etc...

Now, from the other things he says, it could be implied content calling for violence, glorifying violence, celebrating violence, organizing violence, etc...

Jim Ferguson's interpretation of a stretch to say the very least. That is, based on the clip. There is no "pulling down" of anything, or media blackout, or total censorship of any kind. For now that is.

Jennifer N's comment is total BS.

Regarding the other statements Macron made, they are equally FOS.
He is condemning "political instrumentation" of the event, yet he was among the first to condemn what happened.
He is calling on to the parents to be more responsible "it is not the duty of the Republic to be parents of substitution", yet that's what the state has been doing for years.
 
I had never seen this in my entire life: Buildings in good condition, relaxed family atmosphere, total feeling of security. In a country without mass immigration, a city is a good place to live. It was like that in the past with us.
(Krakow - #Pologne )

Yes, we live in HLM housing estates with complete peace of mind. This was the case in 1960 in France, this is the case in Eastern countries.
I invite you to go see it with your own eyes, as I did. Look at this paradise.

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Seems Ivan Le Fou, riderboy, token white guy and others warned this would be the future result of unchecked migration and lack of entrance criteria to the West. In which these predictions were dismissed as xeno phobia, 'far right' hysteria and f a c ism back in 2006-2007 on the defunct militaryphotos.net. (Even when the signs then were manifesting.) Scoffers mocked that No Go Zones were conspiracy theories and bigotry, well, how is 'multiculturalism' working for France now...so how does the nation fix this?
 
Seems Ivan Le Fou, riderboy, token white guy and others warned this would be the future result of unchecked migration and lack of entrance criteria to the West. In which these predictions were dismissed as xeno phobia, 'far right' hysteria and f a c ism back in 2006-2007 on the defunct militaryphotos.net. (Even when the signs then were manifesting.) Scoffers mocked that No Go Zones were conspiracy theories and bigotry, well, how is 'multiculturalism' working for France now...so how does the nation fix this?

How does the nation fix this?

Well, first one should ask: is the nation planing on fixing anything?
imho; I doubt it.

Can the nation fix it?
Eh... no. At least, realistically, I don't see how it could be fixed. It's way too late and too far gone; be it from a cultural and societal point of view.

But yeah, yeah. As you said, there were a few of us who saw the writings on the wall, read into the clouds, tasted the wind, and such. So, I am not that shocked by what is happening. It was expected. And we were right. Unfortunately.
For those currently having problems coming to term with reality? Well... that's not my problem. You wanted it, here you go. Deal and live with it.



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That being said, I believe there is an important nuance to be made in light of the current riots in France.

I saw a lot of pundits, journos and commentators pointing the finger at "the migrants".
"The migrants", what is that? That's a pretty broad term that is somehow used as a big bag in which many different populations are thrown in.
Like many other countries, France has many kind of migrants that arrived at different periods of time for different reasons. The most recent influx being the result of the "Arab Spring"/"Islamist Winter" and the subsequent open-borders movement. Obviously, and every country affected by major movements of illegal migrants, there are a lot of negative effects that far outweigh the benefits. But that has to be expected.

Now, regarding the riots, from what I, personally, have seen, therefore it does not represent a global picture of things, is most of the rioters are either far left activists (not from migratory background) and youths from the suburbs.
These youths tend to be several generations in, and not freshly off the boat. They are, in a certain proportion, the result of failed political and social policies and experiments; along with failures from the family structure, which itself is the result, in part, of failed policies and experiments.
The problem is systemic, truly and genuinely systemic. It is like a rot of the blood. It is, or may/might be, not stemming from racism itself. Though it plays a role and strives on and through it.

But the "migrants" don't appear to be the main persons of interest in these riots. Recent migrants tend to be keeping their distances from these events. At least that is my general impression.
 
I've read of two female Algerian-French essayists who say that the problem is total lack of integration. Where ever an Algerian lands is forever Algerian throughout the generations.

If that is somewhere where politicians choose to look away from problems to harvest votes and call the population who complain racists and deplorables you end up like this, with gettos full of 4th generation "Algerians", "Tunisians", "Senegalese" etc where police both can't and won't go.

Loads of money has been spent improving their schools, social centers, jobs programs etc, but they simply don't want to be a part of France.
 
Seems Ivan Le Fou, riderboy, token white guy and others warned this would be the future result of unchecked migration and lack of entrance criteria to the West. In which these predictions were dismissed as xeno phobia, 'far right' hysteria and f a c ism back in 2006-2007 on the defunct militaryphotos.net. (Even when the signs then were manifesting.) Scoffers mocked that No Go Zones were conspiracy theories and bigotry, well, how is 'multiculturalism' working for France now...so how does the nation fix this?
Whilst I agree with the sentiment (unchecked immigration is a terrible idea), there's relatively little that Ivan and the others could've warned about in this specific instance because the damage had long since been done. The communities from which these riots erupted have existed for over half a century. Many of the rioters are second- or third-generation French citizens, at least in the eyes of the law.

What is there to do about them, realistically speaking?

By the way, don't fool yourself into thinking that what you're observing in some European countries now is foreign to America, because it isn't. There's little difference in quality between a French Banlieue and the gang-controlled neighbourhoods for which cities like Chicago, L.A. or Washington are known for. (In fact, even Marseille as France's most dangerous city is with a murder rate of 3.5/100,000 people many times as safe as these cities; it is safe even compared to the American average of 7.8/100,000 murders in 2020).

The issues are, indeed, remarkably similar despite the introduction of religion as a factor. I mean, you can be born in the US and live your entire life without speaking a word of English or without ever leaving your ethnic bubble. A criminal lifestyle, social welfare and self-segregation will ensure they don't have to leave the bubble. The West entire has no idea what to do with people who disrespect our values.
 
That's priceless:

The Polish opposition leader started copying PiS, also when it comes to the magnitude of social handouts.
Long live national socialism.
 

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