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[morris]

Try to focus on the new alliance here.

Joint Leaders Statement on AUKUS | Prime Minister of Australia

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PM Statement on AUKUS Partnership: 15 September 2021

Prime Minister Boris Johnson's statement on the launch of the new trilateral defence partnership, AUKUS.

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Joint Leaders Statement on AUKUS | The White House

As leaders of Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States, guided by our enduring ideals and shared commitment to the international rules-based

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[morris]

'This will be a staged farce': Chinese embassy unhappy with Australia-US joint statement

The Chinese embassy in Canberra has accused Australia and the US of making "erroneous accusations" against China in a joint statement. The exchange comes a day after the announcement of the AUKUS deal.

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Malaysia warns AUKUS pact will spark nuclear arms race in Indo-Pacific

Malaysia’s new Prime Minister has joined Indonesia in raising alarm bells about the military build-up in the region after speaking with Scott Morrison.

www.smh.com.au

 

[morris]

Aukus: France recalls envoys amid security pact row

PM’s trip to Indonesia cancelled amid fallout over AUKUS alliance

Prime Minister Scott Morrison's trip to the Indonesian capital Jakarta has been cancelled as the fallout over the AUKUS defence pact continues. Mr Morrison planned to stop at Indonesia on his way back from Washington next week. But the Indonesian government said President Joko Widodo was...

www.skynews.com.au

 

[morris]

France cancels meetings with UK and Australia ministers over AUKUS row

France canceled meetings with British and Australian officials after the cancellation of a multi-billion-euro order for French submarines.View on euronews

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Australia Exports to France - 2024 Data 2025 Forecast 1988-2023 Historical

Australia Exports to France was US$1.5 Billion during 2023, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. Australia Exports to France - data, historical chart and statistics - was last updated on August of 2024.

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Australia Imports from France - 2024 Data 2025 Forecast 1988-2023 Historical

Australia Imports from France was US$5.13 Billion during 2023, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. Australia Imports from France - data, historical chart and statistics - was last updated on August of 2024.

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[Junglejim]

Jesus Christ, I'm more impressed at the Chinese Build up. No wonder the US is looking at stronger alliances.

 

[Picanha]

I don't know but they could give France a bit of the cake (as a compensation) as it sure is a task to build alll those subs.

Also more astonishingly the originally intended sub is also available as a nuclear sub. Could have picked this option right away.

Anyway it is a sound decision and Chinas nervosity is proof of that.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

AUKUS: Former French ambassador offers sarcastic response to Blinken tweet

Gérard Araud, the former French ambassador, joined leaders in Paris who expressed outrage over last week's nuclear submarine deal between the US, UK and Australia.

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[Picanha]

Jesus Christ, I'm more impressed at the Chinese Build up. No wonder the US is looking at stronger alliances.

I'm not that impressed they take decades for everything, and the result is often mediocre at best, nevermind all that spying. Only efficient thing in China is Western style private industry (Teached by the West).

Heck the US builds Ford classes quicker than the PLAN is able to bring to bear a mini fleet of just modernised soviet design carriers.

You may also not confuse the military hardware with welding together tankers. China doesn't even have their own propulsion systems for civil ships. I always wonder on what engines their military ships run.

Their wheeled vehicles and APC use German Deutz engines through the usual JVs with NORINCO

Must come from the likes of WinGD they develop modern ship engines and let them be manufactured under license and with components partly provided by WinGD.

WinGD Engine Manufacturers

WinGD engines are produced by specialized engine manufacturing companies under licence from WinGD.

www.wingd.com

Do they already have a marine gas turbine which is useful and reliable? They are trying since the 1970s...

 

[BravoZulu]

 

[Fluff]

Is @Jake84 not talking because of the submarine thing?

 

[Junglejim]

I'm not that impressed they take decades for everything, and the result is often mediocre at best, nevermind all that spying. Only efficient thing in China is Western style private industry (Teached by the West).

Heck the US builds Ford classes quicker than the PLAN is able to bring to bear a mini fleet of just modernised soviet design carriers.

You may also not confuse the military hardware with welding together tankers. China doesn't even have their own propulsion systems for civil ships. I always wonder on what engines their military ships run.

Their wheeled vehicles and APC use German Deutz engines through the usual JVs with NORINCO

Must come from the likes of WinGD they develop modern ship engines and let them be manufactured under license and with components partly provided by WinGD.

WinGD Engine Manufacturers

WinGD engines are produced by specialized engine manufacturing companies under licence from WinGD.

www.wingd.com

Do they already have a marine gas turbine which is useful and reliable? They are trying since the 1970s...

Thats the thing, they can reverse engineer if not already done some of the engines and will cost them less to produce. At the level now they have a formidable Navy, what more when they get their break throughs. Also what isnt counted there are the Shore based missiles and anti shipping aircraft.

Right now, their diesel submarines are running on german engines, now im pretty sure they already have contingencies on what hapens if the EU stops that supply. Either working on their own engines or just straight up copying them.

Couple that with their ability to mass manufacture then it is formidable.

Will they destroy the west in a full on fight? Nope. Will they bloody the nose of the west enough to make concessions... most likely.

Also, a lot of Western nations think buy selling Taiwan weaponry they are helping their cause, when all they are making is making these techs more accessible to mainland China. I still cant believe how the US thinks Taiwan is an ally.


Do take note that their build up happened in peace time. Imagine a Chinese war industry.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

The real potential of AUKUS is about far more than submarines | The Strategist

Last week’s surprise AUKUS announcement by the United States, Britain and Australia has created a frenzy of focus on nuclear-powered submarines, but the bigger picture is getting lost in a sea of naval analysis. The ...

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[BCNTM]

Is @Jake84 not talking because of the submarine thing?

He's still rubbing the blue and the red stripes off the French flag ? ? ?

 

[Picanha]

Thats the thing, they can reverse engineer if not already done some of the engines and will cost them less to produce. At the level now they have a formidable Navy, what more when they get their break throughs. Also what isnt counted there are the Shore based missiles and anti shipping aircraft.

Right now, their diesel submarines are running on german engines, now im pretty sure they already have contingencies on what hapens if the EU stops that supply. Either working on their own engines or just straight up copying them.

Couple that with their ability to mass manufacture then it is formidable.

Will they destroy the west in a full on fight? Nope. Will they bloody the nose of the west enough to make concessions... most likely.

Also, a lot of Western nations think buy selling Taiwan weaponry they are helping their cause, when all they are making is making these techs more accessible to mainland China. I still cant believe how the US thinks Taiwan is an ally.


Do take note that their build up happened in peace time. Imagine a Chinese war industry.

Well then they have a very long list of "unresolved issues" to work on.

 

[Junglejim]

Well then they have a very long list of "unresolved issues" to work on.

Nothing that time and money cant solve... now if only the Germans stop selling them engines for their submarines haha. There's a little German in most weapons of war.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

AUKUS Postscript: France Could Help India with Nuclear Attack Submarine Technology - News18

Washington seems to have decided, that the best military option right now is to rely on a Cold War-type alliance whose core will be its most trusted partners.

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Washington seems to have decided, that the best military option right now is to rely on a Cold War-type alliance whose core will be its most trusted partners.

 

[Picanha]

Nothing that time and money cant solve... now if only the Germans stop selling them engines for their submarines haha. There's a little German in most weapons of war.

Money can not buy everything

 

[Picanha]

AUKUS Postscript: France Could Help India with Nuclear Attack Submarine Technology - News18

Washington seems to have decided, that the best military option right now is to rely on a Cold War-type alliance whose core will be its most trusted partners.

www.news18.com

Washington seems to have decided, that the best military option right now is to rely on a Cold War-type alliance whose core will be its most trusted partners.

Hope they stay on that path. At some point it would be too late, we stupidly helped the CCP enough.

Totally incompatible systems, just imagine a World where the CCP rules.

 

[Junglejim]

Money can not buy everything

It can buy you enough german tech and engineers to power on through the next millennia... Never underestimate mans greed, with enough cash and leverage men will sell their own mothers.

I remember from past flights in Chengdu, seeing that sign on the building how in one area a tech start up can start from scratch to final establishment.

This building is for a partnership with EU scientists and engineers

 

[Picanha]

I think not, not forever and I may add depending on development it may end quicker than some might expect.