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[Marat]

@berkut76

All of the "objects" of industrial value has already been away by Russia or destroyed by Russian appointed overseers.

Would you be so kind to actually gave any proof that "all objects of industrial value" were taken away in Russia, from credible and independent sources not from Azov if possible?

However, the most important consideration, all of the quality people have left the area, settling in mainland Ukraine or Russia.

Quality people left??? So just Untermenschen are left in Donbas now?

I am quite sure that lot of great people are living in Donbas now. Lot of nice and very smart kids, even if their parents are low educated farmers or construction workers and not software developers. Schools in Donbas are full of them now you could be sure. Yuri Gagarin was son of poor uneducated parents.
This is bad road you are riding…..

And what about Ukrainians? Did you visit Warsaw (Poland) in last couple years? You could find lot of Ukrainians there ( different quality i guess).

Maydan happened because Yanukovich and his Russian masters have miscalculated badly.

Just for your Information Yanukovich was elected president of Ukraine, election were declared as fair even from western side, he was elected twice. He was toppled once before and he gave power peacefully to new pro-west government, but after couple years as opposition candidate he was elected again. Ukrainian people elected him.

Regarding Maidan, they sign deal with Poroshenko in February, deal about new election until end of year, and very next day they broken it.

Tell me, 6 years passed. How investigation about snipers which shoot people at Maidan is going? Who cut all trees full of bullets from that street soon after new government was formed, and why? I guess that investigation is over and that names of shooters, their positions were established?

Yanukovich didnt send tanks on his people as Poroshenko did just weeks after he came to power.

Now they have comedian.... Thats happen when you gave power to bunch of radicals.

 

[berkut76]

To continue this civil war is a suicide for Ukraine. There is a hybrid war but not between Ukraine and Russia but between US and Russia and promoting maidan was part of it.

I highly doubt that consistent high level warfare will return to the battlefield. If Ukrainians declare the territories occupied and start building "the wall" in all iterations of the term, there'll be no fighting. Frozen conflict. Even the low level fighting is more acceptable to the future of Ukraine than becoming a large Bosnia or Moldova if the territories are returned to Ukraine on Russian terms.

 

[morris]

pi24.info

HORROR. The woman was given her husband's legs because the hospital has no way to dispose of them
Earlier, in the regional center New Bug of the Nikolaev region, a resident of one of the local villages was forced to take her husband's amputated legs out of the hospital, due to the fact that the hospital simply does not have enough financial resources to dispose of waste.

 

[berkut76]

pi24.info

HORROR. The woman was given her husband's legs because the hospital has no way to dispose of them
Earlier, in the regional center New Bug of the Nikolaev region, a resident of one of the local villages was forced to take her husband's amputated legs out of the hospital, due to the fact that the hospital simply does not have enough financial resources to dispose of waste.

Nothing to do with politics, and anti-Ukrainian site was quoted as usual, but the news is real. Most likely this medical facility will be closed forever at this point as a part of "streamlining and optimization". Explanation given by the hospital management is that the facility responsible for handling this type of procedure (i.e. disposal) was destroyed by the locals, and there is no money to rebuilt it.

 

[morris]

Nothing to do with politics

I think it is due to local gov budget.

 

[berkut76]

I think it is due to local gov budget.

Mykolayiv to say nothing of the surrounding rural areas is, unfortunately, a criminal infested shithole even by Ukrainian standards. While the city itself has benefited from the massive military presence and is making some very slow and very unsteady progress towards civilization, the surrounding areas are what described in this article.

Corrupt and incompetent officials and completely regressed population. I've seen multiple news like that from both, Russia and Ukraine. The main problem is that under the Soviet Union some social standards were maintained due to emphasis on universal education. Now schools have been replaced by churches, breakdown of social interaction has occurred, and vodka has been supplemented by drugs. This is like South America circa 1970s.

 

[morris]

Another news here

Kharkiv mayor Kernes in intensive care at Berlin's Charite hospital

He's conscious, and his blood pressure is great, friendly businessman says

112.international

As it was reported earlier, Hennadiy Kernes appeared to be sick with coronavirus. Some sources reported that he fell into a coma, but the information was not confirmed. It is known that the disease of Kharkiv Mayor Hennadiy Kernes is severe.

 

[berkut76]

Another news here

Kharkiv mayor Kernes in intensive care at Berlin's Charite hospital

He's conscious, and his blood pressure is great, friendly businessman says

112.international

As it was reported earlier, Hennadiy Kernes appeared to be sick with coronavirus. Some sources reported that he fell into a coma, but the information was not confirmed. It is known that the disease of Kharkiv Mayor Hennadiy Kernes is severe.

A true friend of whoever is in power in Ukraine at the moment. Ukrainian politics is like the Italian one during the cold war. The country could certainly benefit from Pinochet-like dictatorship for a decade.

 

[morris]

Radicals under the building of the Court of Appeal in Kiev, which today left in custody the suspect in the murder of Pavel Sheremet Andrey Antonenko, trying to prevent the van with him from leaving, staged a scuffle with law enforcement officers. As a result, one person was injured.

 

[morris]

Zelenskyy Dismisses UkrOboronProm’s Strategy Abromavicius, Appoints Fomenko As Acting Director General

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has dismissed Aivaras Abromavicius as the director general of the UkrOboronProm state-run enterprise and appointed Ihor Fomenko

ukranews.com

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has dismissed Aivaras Abromavicius as the director general of the UkrOboronProm state-run enterprise and appointed Ihor Fomenko as the acting director general of the concern.
This follows from the respective presidential decrees 422 and 423 dated October 6, Ukrainian News Agency reports.
The reasons for the Abromavicius’ dismissal were not mentioned in the decrees.

Earlier, Fomenko had occupied managerial positions at the Luhansk Bullet Factory; Kremenchuk-based AvtoKrAZ holding company (Poltava region), a producer of heavy trucks; Corum Group; and ICDI Group.

As Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, in 2019, UkrOboronProm fulfilled the defense order for 98%.

 

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Pro-regime annual nazi march today in Kiev and other cities.

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[nicememe]

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They should rather spend their free time learning to code instead of marching on streets.
21st century revolutions are digital

 

[morris]

Обыски в "Азове" и Нацкорпусе. Найдено оружие и наркотики. Готовились провокации на выборах. Все подробности

После обысков в "Азове" и "Нацкорпусе" СБУ нашло оружие, наркотики, деньги и провокационные политические материалы

strana.ua

Searches in Azov and the National Corps. Found weapons and drugs. Provocations were being prepared in the elections.
Today we received details of this operation, which was carried out in secret from the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov and the Prosecutor General Irina Venediktova.

According to our sources in the SBU, during the searches they found weapons, drugs, ammunition, large amounts of money, technical devices and information carriers, evidence of the organization of raider seizures and political provocations, and much more.

 

[morris]

Разгром "Слуг народа", победы местных партий, сенсация в Киеве. Пять главных итогов местных выборов

Пять главных тенденций на местных выборах в Украине, которые состоялись 25 октября

strana.ua

Defeat of "Servants of the People", victories of local parties, sensation in Kiev. Five main results of local elections

The defeat of the "servants of the people"

The exact scale of their problems will be clear after the final vote count, but it is already clear that everything is very sad for the president's party.

In the largest cities, Zelensky's candidates for mayor did not even make it to the second round.

In Kiev, the representative of the "Opposition Platform" Alexander Popov got to the finish line with Klitschko, in Odessa - his fellow party member Nikolai Skorik. In Dnipro, the first and second places are shared by the nominees of local parties - Boris Filatov and Zagid Krasnov.

In Kharkiv, incumbent mayor Gennady Kernes wins in the first round. And here the "servants" are in third place, and Alexander Feldman, a candidate from the HLS, took the second.

 

[morris]

Глава МИД Венгрии в день выборов агитировал жителей Закарпатья проголосовать за одну из партий

Сегодня, в день местных выборов в Украине, министр внешней экономики и иностранных дел Венгрии Петер Сийярто публично призвал жителей Закарпатья отдать свой голос за Партию венгров Украины

strana.ua

Today, on the day of local elections in Ukraine, Minister of Foreign Economy and Foreign Affairs of Hungary Peter Siyjarto publicly called on the inhabitants of Transcarpathia to vote for the "Party of Hungarians of Ukraine".
The official posted the corresponding post on his Facebook on Sunday, October 25.

Украина обвинила Венгрию во вмешательстве в местные выборы на Закарпатье и пообещала жесткий ответ

В МИД Украины раскритиковали призыв министра внешней экономики и иностранных дел Венгрии Петера Сийярто к жителям Закарпатья проголосовать за Партию венгров Украины (Общество венгерской культуры)

strana.ua

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry criticized the appeal of the Minister of Foreign Economy and Foreign Affairs of Hungary Peter Siyjarto to the inhabitants of Transcarpathia to vote for the "Party of Hungarians of Ukraine" (Society of Hungarian Culture).
The corresponding statement was made public by the press service of the Ukrainian diplomatic department on Sunday, October 25.

 

[Musashi]

Разгром "Слуг народа", победы местных партий, сенсация в Киеве. Пять главных итогов местных выборов

Пять главных тенденций на местных выборах в Украине, которые состоялись 25 октября

strana.ua

Defeat of "Servants of the People", victories of local parties, sensation in Kiev. Five main results of local elections

The defeat of the "servants of the people"

The exact scale of their problems will be clear after the final vote count, but it is already clear that everything is very sad for the president's party.

In the largest cities, Zelensky's candidates for mayor did not even make it to the second round.

In Kiev, the representative of the "Opposition Platform" Alexander Popov got to the finish line with Klitschko, in Odessa - his fellow party member Nikolai Skorik. In Dnipro, the first and second places are shared by the nominees of local parties - Boris Filatov and Zagid Krasnov.

In Kharkiv, incumbent mayor Gennady Kernes wins in the first round. And here the "servants" are in third place, and Alexander Feldman, a candidate from the HLS, took the second.

Thank you for making a great point about Ukraine holding fair elections. Unlike Monsieur Putain, the current Ukrainian president cannot make his party win random elections.

 

[morris]

Thank you for making a great point about Ukraine holding fair elections

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[Milan Mynar]

Painting by Russian painter Ilya Repin, Zaporozhye Cossacks write a letter to Turkish Sultan Mehmet IV.

 

[morris]

Painting by Russian painter Ilya Repin, Zaporozhye Cossacks write a letter to Turkish Sultan Mehmet IV.

Some of them look more Turkish then Turks.

 

[Gnarlycharlie]

It will be an alliance, the Zaporozhian Cossacks must turn in their graves. They fought against the Turkish sultan.

No, they won't. The Cossacks were in alliance with Crimean Khanate which was a vassal to Ottoman empire against the former Golden Hoard's vassal the tsardom of muscovy on several occasions. It was nothing new then and it's nothing new now, your enemy yesterday can be your ally today against common foe and an enemy again tomorrow. Not to mention that many Cossacks at early stages of formation often treated their own (mostly peasantry) people marginally better than Tatars or Ottomans. So this little deal, not to mention it's 21st century outside not 16th, is most natural, especially considering modern political landscape.