Politics The COVID-19 pandemic news and discussion.

[Ivan le Fou]

569 deceased in the UK in the last 24hours.

 

[Musashi]

An übercool video on the virus, even if the virus is not so cool:

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[Ivan le Fou]

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[Fluff]

I bet is/will be a common sight in Europe.

Hospitals in Helsinki bring in containers to store dead bodies.

Ruumiskontit ilmestyivät helsinkiläissairaalan pihalle – sairaalapomo: ”Ennen pitkää koronaepidemia aiheuttaa ylimääräistä kuolleisuutta”

Koronaepidemia hidastaa hautausprosesseja ja ruuhkauttaa perinteiset ruumiiden säilytystilat.

www.is.fi

But there's positive news, it's possible the restrictions are working:

Thursday’s papers: Reduced infection rate, mass mask-wearing, and a Posti bonus

The press on Thursday looks at the effect of Finland’s anti-coronavirus measures, and a controversial payment to a postal boss.

yle.fi

Its happening everywhere, in UK they are using ice skating rinks. At least yours is a better effort than New York, where the public can see bodies being forked into the containers on the street. Appreciate it may remind people to stay home, but I doesn't look like care and consideration for the deceased. soylent Green anybody??

On one of the announcements in UK, regarding an ice rink, they advised that it would stay open, to better function, I can only assume people were confused, as clearly its on, to keep the bodies cool...….I don't think you will be able to visit and skate round the bodies....

 

[Mordoror]

Its happening everywhere, in UK they are using ice skating rinks. At least yours is a better effort than New York, where the public can see bodies being forked into the containers on the street. Appreciate it may remind people to stay home, but I doesn't look like care and consideration for the deceased. soylent Green anybody??

On one of the announcements in UK, regarding an ice rink, they advised that it would stay open, to better function, I can only assume people were confused, as clearly its on, to keep the bodies cool...….I don't think you will be able to visit and skate round the bodies....

For the references, i'd rather go about this movie

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or this TV series( older and less realistic ..... beware CW context included ....)

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At least in the last one, be happy, the RN has still a SSN sailing

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[Fluff]

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I'm sure they did, but as good capitalists, these will be on ebay by tonight.

 

[Connaught Ranger]

Coronavirus Death Toll Up To 94 In Romania. 278 New Cases, 2,738 Overall
https://www.romaniajournal.ro/socie...-to-94-in-romania-278-new-cases-2738-overall/

Iohannis: Medical Staff Working With COVID-19 Patients To Get EUR 500 Signing Bonus. Suceava Hospital Militarised
https://www.romaniajournal.ro/socie...0-signing-bonus-suceava-hospital-militarised/

Coronavirus Crisis: The Manager And Medical Director Of Suceava County Hospital Resign
https://www.romaniajournal.ro/socie...l-director-of-suceava-county-hospital-resign/

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Today, in France:
-471 deaths.

And, apparently, the number of deceased in EHPAD is somewhere around 884.

#weprepared #totallyfine #shutupfakefrenchies #trustbigbrain

 

[Junglejim]

America, sure is something else... from the trains to people wanting to kill the guys leading you out of this situation:

Anthony Fauci To Receive More Personal Security After Threats: Reports

The nation's top infectious disease expert has already been targeted after sharing bleak forecasts on the spread of COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

 

[muck]

@Gaz & @downsizer

I "consult" the Daily Mail for the opinion of the right; the Guardian to see what the left is thinking; and I occasionally watch Sky News for the (relative) centre. Centrist outlets are kinda hard to come by these days…

…well, not only "these days".

 

[riderboy]

America, sure is something else... from the trains to people wanting to kill the guys leading you out of this situation:

Anthony Fauci To Receive More Personal Security After Threats: Reports

The nation's top infectious disease expert has already been targeted after sharing bleak forecasts on the spread of COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

Yeah, it's too bad....He's really a voice of reason. He can't win. If he argues with Trump or gets too negative the far right hates him, if he says anything positive about Trump then he's a rogue who got things all wrong. He's actually been incredibly supportive of Trump and what the Administration has had to deal with and the steps they've taken, fully recognizing the failures of things like our testing system early on.

 

[Mordoror]

Numbers in France
+ 2216 new positive cases (+4611 cases yesterday, +7578 two days ago)
+ 471 death
For a total of 4503 death (83% aged of more than 70 y)
6399 person in ICU with the following distribution : 30 persons aged of 30y and less, 60% aged between 60 and 70y, 35% over 70y

To be added 884 death in Elerdly houses over the past 2 weeks with 14 638 possible or probable positive cases (but these numbers will change, only 70% of the structures have answered)

What is good : new confirmed infections are decreasing for 2 days now
What is bad : the elderly houses are probably the next death nexuses if the 14 K cases are confirmed

 

[Fluff]

@Gaz & @downsizer

I "consult" the Daily Mail for the opinion of the right; the Guardian to see what the left is thinking; and I occasionally watch Sky News for the (relative) centre. Centrist outlets are kinda hard to come by these days…

…well, not only "these days".

When I used to dress up - I mean serve, it was said you needed to read the Sun to see what the troops thought, and the telegraph to see what the officers thought.

 

[muck]

With the official count being 928,437 confirmed cases worldwide, the number of infections with SARS-CoV-2 is expected to surpass the mark of 1 million people tonight.

The doubling time of infections, i.e. the period of time it took for the confirmed cases to double, stands at 8 days globally. In other words, come Good Friday we'll already see 2 million worldwide cases.

 

[riderboy]

With the official count being 928,437 confirmed cases worldwide, the number of infections with SARS-CoV-2 is expected to surpass the mark of 1 million people tonight.

The doubling time of infections, i.e. the period of time it took for the confirmed cases to double, stands at 8 days globally. In other words, come Good Friday we'll already see 2 million worldwide cases.

Any word from the control group in Sweden??

 

[muck]

Any word from the control group in Sweden??

The only thing I've heard is that Sweden's ramping up its quarantining efforts now. The virus has reached a number of retirement homes and they're understandably worried.

Quite frankly, Sweden's initial restraint might've been born out of necessity. For some bizarre reason – which I'm yet to comprehend –, they have an only minuscule number of ICU beds.

Country	Critical care beds per 100,000 inhabitants
United States of America	34.7
Germany	29.2
Taiwan	28.5
Luxembourg	24.8
European Union recommendation	22.5
Austria	21.8
Romania	21.4
Saudi Arabia	21.3
Belgium	15.9
Lithuania	15.5
Croatia	14.7
Estonia	14.6
Oman	14.6
Hungary	13.8
Canada	12.9
Italy	12.5
Bulgaria	12.2
Turkey	12.0
Czechia	11.6
France	11.6
European Union average	11.5
Cyprus	11.4
Singapore	11.4
Switzerland	11.0
South Korea	10.6
Thailand	10.4
WHO recommendation	10.0
Latvia	9.7
Spain	9.7
Slovakia	9.2
Iceland	9.1
Mongolia	8.8
Norway	8.0
Japan	7.3
Hongkong	7.1
Poland	6.9
Denmark	6.7
Great Britain	6.6
Ireland	6.5
Netherlands	6.4
Slovenia	6.4
Finland	6.1
Greece	6.0
Sweden	5.8
Iran	4.6
Portugal	4.2
China (without Hongkong)	3.6
New Zealand	3.6
Malaysia	3.4
India	2.3
Philippines	2.2

Notes

• Critical cases of Covid-19 require 11-14 days of ventillation support on average. It's almost as though this disease was designed to overwhelm a country's health system.
• These numbers are only supposed to provide an overview; some are several years old (~2015) and must be considered outdated. Additionaly, efforts have been underway in many countries to increase the number of available ICU beds. For example, as of March 30 Germany has raised its capacities to 33 beds / 100,000. If anyone knows more up-to-date figures, feel free to add them to the list.

 

[Mordoror]

4 french soldiers of the Barkhane operation (Sahel counter terrorist operation in Mali) were found Covid positive.
Which raises a few question:
They were deployed for weeks now so cannot have been infected in France
Mali has only 28 cases declared

So either numbers in Africa are not precise and there is more viral cases circulating (which is a time bomb awaiting to explode)
Either poorly symptomatic cases can keep the virus in the nostrils for longer than 14d (which questions the de-quarantine date and methodology)

 

[Chazman]

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[Mordoror]

@muck from what i understood, Sweden is basing its public health policy on prevention at national level rather than on terminal medical supportive therapies needing an ER. Which was pretty efficient so far. They have few cases percentage wise of medical conditions like coronary disease etc .
It may have worked..... until now