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This is old, 2023.......it's not on fire, the Chinese like to use large fire pots and smoke generators to create realistic scenarios for damage control exercises and believe it or not that's what this was, a DC exercise in 2023. The ship is fine ;)
 
This is old, 2023.......it's not on fire, the Chinese like to use large fire pots and smoke generators to create realistic scenarios for damage control exercises and believe it or not that's what this was, a DC exercise in 2023. The ship is fine ;)
everybody in the west wants China to fail so bad that they grasp at straws.... forgetting that these guys are able to have their own spae program
 
So does New Zealand. Being able to put stuff into space isn’t particularly special these days.
 
Foreign investment in China went down by 82% compared to 2022.

The great exception who ramped up investment?
Germoney (+10,3%)

On their next outing at completely mishandling a genocidal dictator for which another people will end up paying the price.
 
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Eleven Chinese naval vessels were detected around Taiwan, Taipei's defence ministry said on Wednesday, the highest number this year as a row between the island and China over a fatal fishing boat incident drags on.

A Chinese speedboat carrying four people capsized on February 14 near Taiwan's Kinmen islands while being pursued by the Taiwanese coast guard, throwing all on board into the water.

Two of the crew died and two others were rescued and temporarily detained in Kinmen -- a territory administered by Taipei but located just five kilometres (three miles) from China's city of Xiamen.

The incident occurred against a backdrop of already-heightened tensions between China and Taiwan, a self-ruled island that Beijing claims as part of its territory.

A survivor reportedly claimed the boat was "rammed" after returning to the mainland, though Taiwan insists the coast guard was following legitimate procedures.

In the 24 hours leading up to 6:00 am on Wednesday (2200 GMT Tuesday), Taiwan's defence ministry said China sent 15 warplanes, 11 naval vessels and one balloon into the waters and skies around the island.

The ministry said at least 15 more Chinese warplanes had been detected since then.

The number of Chinese naval ships was more than the usual four to six spotted in a 24-hour window, and the highest so far this year, according to Taiwan's official data.

In December, 11 Chinese naval vessels were detected around Taiwan in the run-up to its January presidential elections -- won by Lai Ching-te, whom Beijing has called a "separatist".

On Monday, one Chinese maritime surveillance ship and four Chinese coast guard boats briefly entered prohibited or restricted waters around Kinmen, according to Kuan Bi-ling, minister of Taiwan's Ocean Affairs Council, which supervises the coast guard.

Beijing has accused Taiwanese authorities of "seeking to evade their responsibilities and hide the truth" about the February 14 incident, while a Taiwanese coast guard official has said the boat involved was zigzagging, "lost its balance and capsized" while trying to evade a patrol vessel.
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Tensions in the strategically vital South China Sea have escalated after the Philippine government summoned a senior Chinese diplomat to protest the “harassment, ramming, swarming, shadowing and blocking” of its vessels by Beijing’s maritime forces. The strongly-worded rebuke, confirmed by the Department of Foreign Affairs on Tuesday, came in response to an incident on April 30th in which China Coast Guard and maritime militia ships allegedly engaged in “dangerous manoeuvres” and deployed water cannons against Philippine patrol boats.

In a formal protest delivered to Zhou Zhiyong, the second-highest ranking official at Beijing’s embassy in the Philippine capital, Manila condemned the purported “aggressive actions” which inflicted damage upon vessels operated by both the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) and Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR). The diplomatically-charged demarche demanded Chinese maritime forces “leave Bajo de Masinloc and its vicinity immediately” – referring to the Filipino name for the Chinese-controlled Scarborough Shoal flashpoint.

“The Philippines protested the harassment, ramming, swarming, shadowing and blocking, dangerous manoeuvres, use of water cannons, and other aggressive actions of China Coast Guard and Chinese Maritime Militia vessels against Filipino government vessels,” the Department proclaimed in a statement. No immediate response was forthcoming from the Chinese embassy.

The latest flare-up in the continent’s paramount maritime territorial feud occurred as Philippine boats conducted a resupply mission to regional fishermen near the Scarborough Shoal – a resource-rich reef under Beijing’s control since 2012. Commenting on the incident days earlier, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin Jian asserted the Coast Guard undertook “necessary measures” against Philippine ships which “infringed on Beijing’s territory” – insisting such actions were “professional” and “in accordance with the law.”
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As much as I think China should f%&* off and stay in their own eez, we all know distance from something has nothing to do with controlling something if you have the assets and the will to control it.
 
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A Chinese J-10 fighter intercepted an Australian MH-60R Seahawk helicopter from the destroyer HMAS Hobart over the Yellow Sea on 4 May, dropping flares in its path and endangering the helicopter and its crew, Australia’s Department of Defence says. With uncharacteristic haste, the department issued a condemnatory statement two days later, describing China’s latest harassment of an Australian military asset as unsafe and unprofessional.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese later called it ‘completely unacceptable’.

First and foremost, such behaviour during the conduct of routine and lawful operations around China’s maritime periphery needs to be called out. Official silence would risk complicity in repeated bad behaviour. If the government has absorbed that lesson, after suffering criticism for its hesitant response to China’s dangerous use of sonar pulses against Australian divers from the frigate HMAS Toowoomba in November, then bravo.

But this leaves a basic question unanswered: why do the Chinese armed forces persist with such risky and provocative behaviour? And why do they do it despite improvement in diplomatic relations with Australia and efforts by the US and its partners to engage with them on protocols for safe military encounters?

China habitually denies engaging in irresponsible conduct in its encounters with foreign warships and aircraft. In this case it said ‘an Australian military aircraft deliberately flew within close range of China’s airspace in a provocative move which endangered China’s maritime air security’. Yet the catalogue of unsafe incidents is extensive enough to prove deliberate and organised harassment.

Chinese forces’ behaviour had recently seemed more disciplined. The frequency with which their units have acted unsafely near US forces in the Pacific has declined. Immediately before the latest incident, China’s navy chief, Admiral Hu Zhongming, hosted regional counterparts for a naval symposium in Qingdao ‘for countries to deepen friendship, promote exchanges and enhance mutual trust’. Australian naval chief Vice-Admiral Mark Hammond participated.

But two Australian warships have now been involved in serious incidents within a few months. And a Royal Australian Air Force P-8A Poseidon maritime patroller was unsafely intercepted over the South China Sea in May 2022, just as the current Labor government came to power. It is simply not credible to assert that these incidents are spontaneous or occur independently of the Chinese military chain of command.

A combination of coercive behaviour, including military manoeuvres, with diplomatic charm offensives is familiar in China’s statecraft. India and Vietnam have experienced similar tactics over many years. So Canberra should not be surprised by the combination of stroke-and-poke in the current phase of supposed stabilisation with Beijing.

The tactic has kept China’s interlocutors off-balance and worried about crossing Beijing’s often ambiguous red lines. As with any form of bullying, maintaining silence in the face of it only empowers the bully. So Australia’s quick, clear and measured response to the latest incident is encouraging.

China is also likely to have had specific motivation for the unsafe interception.

The first pointer is timing. It came just days after the ABC revealed that Hammond had urged his Chinese counterpart in Qingdao to prioritise safety. Hammond raised the sonar incident during their encounter.

The second pointer is the operational context. During their deployments to Northeast Asia, the Australian warships were involved in Operation Argos, multinational maritime enforcement of UN-mandated sanctions against North Korea. The activity is focused on the Yellow Sea and East China Sea. In October, the Chinese air force unsafely intercepted a Canadian surveillance aircraft engaged in the same operation.

China’s specific objective here is to dissuade US allies from continuing to physically enforce sanctions against North Korea. Many of the embargoed materials that find their way to North Korean ports, including through ship-to-ship transfers, come from China. And China’s connection with North Korea, as with Russia, is tightening.

Beijing has Australia-specific motivations, too. Canberra should interpret such aggression as a dominance display by the Chinese armed forces, demonstrating that they can make life difficult for the Australian Defence Force wherever they deem its presence unwelcome—and that they can do it dangerously if they please.

China knows how highly Australia regards the wellbeing and safety of its service personnel. These incidents cumulatively test Canberra’s resolve to continue operating in China’s maritime periphery in peacetime.

The latest could even be interpreted as a personal rebuke to Australia’s navy chief for directly questioning Chinese military professionalism and safety. The government should therefore be careful to back Hammond. It should also pre-empt any Chinese perception that Canberra can be coerced into reining in defence operations, not only in Northeast Asia but also in conducting more joint patrols with the US, Japan and the Philippines in the South China Sea.

Actions always speak louder than words to Beijing.
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/c...st unsafe interception at sea was no accident
 
 

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