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I'm struggling to see the problem, Trump gave a wishy washy answer, because of course he wanted Putin to go, and if Putin went, Trump would have jumped in an F14 and got there. Trump cant go if putin isnt going, because he reads that if he shows an empty chair, that putins nose will be put out for any future meeting.

So he made a delicate balance. He is trying to dance with Putin.

Take the win, a meeting took place, maybe it leads to the next meeting. Maybe it doesnt, once the result of this meeting is clear, we will see either nice trump -lets have another meeting. Or nasty trump, threatens US sanctions on anyone buying russian oil/gas. 200% tarriff on all their exports to USA, and 5 more F16 and 100 abrams for Ukraine. Then a week later he will ask if anyone wants a next meeting.
The “problem” is TDS. It will first destroy your mind and then your body. 😜.

Yes, a meeting happened. Things were said which may or may not lead to something else. I’m not sure what the expected response was from Trump around here. Or why those are the only comments about that in this thread. Actually, in this thread, I should expect that.

Anyhoo, whoever wants Trump to step aside and let Germany/France/UK/etc. handle this, show of hands. Everyone here seems to be exponentially smarter than Trump. Let’s see some action.
 
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Sounds like Russia truly wants peace huh? This appeasement thing is really working wonders in bringing peace.


If EU countries are disgusted with Trump’s ‘appeasement’, they should step up their support for Zelensky 500% and leave Trump to his own devises. Yet all that ever comes out of Europe is complaining, complaining, complaining……

Cmon guys. Russia should be imploding any minute now based on the Ukraine-bot echo chamber's ceaseless posting of Russian defeats. You got this!


Fact is - Trump is the only outside entity trying to find a peaceful solution. It isn't easy. If EU nations disapprove, start shitting or get off the toilet as the saying goes.
 
If EU countries are disgusted with Trump’s ‘appeasement’, they should step up their support for Zelensky 500% and leave Trump to his own devises. Yet all that ever comes out of Europe is complaining, complaining, complaining……

Cmon guys. Russia should be imploding any minute now based on the Ukraine-bot echo chamber's ceaseless posting of Russian defeats. You got this!


Fact is - Trump is the only outside entity trying to find a peaceful solution. It isn't easy. If EU nations disapprove, start shitting or get off the toilet as the saying goes.
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It's about a gas station shitting in the mouth of the USA, and they look at it as a lame duck.
 
Putin is playing a mind game, Trump is playing a mind game. But...........I guess the popular narrative here is, "oh Trump is dumb as sh!t, but I have it figured out even though he hasn't". Let me let you in on a little secret. Trump is smarter than me, smarter than you, smarter than all of us when it comes to this sort of thing. And he says what he says for a reason.

Amen brother, we must all have faith and believe in him.
 
Amen brother, we must all have faith and believe in him.
Whether you believe in him or not, is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, he is the only game in town.
 
Whether you believe in him or not, is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, he is the only game in town.

Exactly, so even you could exercise some critical thinking on the guy. Admitting the obvious, that his comments in public and online suck, doesn't change a thing.
 
Exactly, so even you could exercise some critical thinking on the guy. Admitting the obvious, that his comments in public and online suck, doesn't change a thing.
He's my guy. Certainly not perfect, but I'm happy to have him. And I am sure if the European powers approached him and said, "Donny please, after all this is our problem, not yours, let us handle it", he'd be happy to move along and focus on the other hundred things he's doing. But......that just ain't gonna happen.

I know it. You know it. And his harshest critics know it. So, there you go.
 
If EU countries are disgusted with Trump’s ‘appeasement’, they should step up their support for Zelensky 500% and leave Trump to his own devises. Yet all that ever comes out of Europe is complaining, complaining, complaining……

Cmon guys. Russia should be imploding any minute now based on the Ukraine-bot echo chamber's ceaseless posting of Russian defeats. You got this!


Fact is - Trump is the only outside entity trying to find a peaceful solution. It isn't easy. If EU nations disapprove, start shitting or get off the toilet as the saying goes.
the main reason there isnt a peaceful solution is because the russians are violent invasive dickheads, that need to be put down like rabid dogs.
 
the main reason there isnt a peaceful solution is because the russians are violent invasive dickheads, that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

Then EU countries should put Russia down like rabid dogs.

But of course they won’t because, security wise, they’re so accustomed to being the United States’ charity case and can’t do anything by themselves.

So they whine and cry because their sugar-daddy isn’t giving them their favorite candy anymore.
The reality is the Trump admin has more pressing issues. Ukraine isnt the center of the universe. But at least Trump is trying.
 
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France being exemplary

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Theres a reason why France has a place in my heart. It's a small place in a small heart, but its there. also maybe due to the fact that Paris smells like piss, which reminds me of Manila for comfort.
 
France being exemplary

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This is how all of Europe and UK should be.

Germany could send 20% of Leo2 production.

UK is sending thousands of the martlet missiles for drones.

Canada I think has sent hundreds of armoured cars.

Overall it would be nearly everything an army needs.
 
On May 16, the Ukrainian Air Force reported losing contact with an F-16 fighter jet that was performing missions to repel an air attack by drones. An abnormal situation occurred on the plane, and the pilot ejected. According to open data, the Ukrainian Air Force has already lost three F-16 fighter jets. The General Staff of Ukraine reported the loss of the first F-16 in August 2024, without providing details of the incident. Then, Verkhovna Rada Deputy Maryana Bezuglaya claimed that it was mistakenly shot down by a Ukrainian Patriot missile. After this, the commander of the Ukrainian Air Force was removed from office. On April 12, 2025, the Ukrainian Air Force reported the loss of another F-16, in which the pilot died. On April 13, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that the F-16 was shot down by air defense.

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