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Because this war is an unmitigated disaster for Russia. Over three years, maybe a million casualties and Russia has captured a sliver of Ukraine. Certain parties inside Russia have had a belly full. They are ready to make obscene amounts of money again. Post war, there are willing investors who might pour billions into Russia to develop it's natural resources. No one is willing with a war going on. Every time Putin says. "you know, we have nukes", it shows his weakness.
He needs this to end, so he can claim credit for all the great things this war has brought to Russia and can then retire peacefully without risk of "smoking accidents".
Whoever replaces him may not be a nice guy either, and whoever it is, surely has a low profile, in the way that Russian politics work.
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If putin makes peace, which I think he will- pushed by trump. Trump will open up trade for Russia. This means oil and gas. Europe will take some, especially as the price will come down. Europe will also take some because it will be taxed or tariffed to pay for Ukraine rebuild. It won’t be in the volume we used to take, but it will happen.
Maybe this keeps putin in power for now, I don’t know how it works in Russia, could be bumpy, could be mad max or nuclear mayhem. Can’t be helped, not our problem, good that ukr and Poland have a strong army.
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Probably just had a stuffy nose - it's allergy season after all.
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The EU is on the verge of banning Russian fossil fuel imports altogether from December 31 2026 onward.
Trump spent his entire first term threatening Germany with sanctions over Nord Stream 2.
Poland, Denmark and many other European nations are totally against that avenue.
No, that ship has sailed, and that's a good thing. Why on earth would we make the same mistake twice?
I'm not sure why Trump would try and waste a prime opportunity of eliminating Russian competition and selling expensive American gas to Europe without opposition, but what you're describing is the cardinal mistake of his administration: Viewing this war from a purely economical angle. Trump is a businessman, he probably can't help it.
Putin is a KGB agent by trade. For Putin, it is a matter of principle. A holy war. And holy wars are not abandoned. Few American commentators, except a select few like Timothy Snyder, seem to have grasped that fact.
I'm convinced that whatever happens in Turkey, if it happens at all, will not yield peace.
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you may be right.
Its a very strange holy war. Crusaders went round looking for sponsors etc.
I still think as part of the deal, the oil and gas must flow. how else will Ukraine be rebuilt? For sure Europe has reduced its thirst, but I think at a low price its irresistible to politicians - 'to help Ukraine'......
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The first recorded sighting of the drones is believed to be in the occupied territory of Ukraine, where Russian military personnel displayed the wreckage of an unknown type of strike drone. It seems a Turkish L-Umtas flying ASM rocket made by Baykar(bayraktar). Those systems recetly used in Pakistani war
US Opposes Inviting Zelensky to NATO SummitWashington has reportedly blocked an invitation for President Zelensky to the June 24 NATO summit in The Hague. So far, only Japan, South Korea, Australia, and New Zealand — all non-NATO states — have received invitations.
Western propaganda would make you think is always the case, right?
Fact is, at least in Donetsk, there's a lot of Russian support. And a good portion of that is augmented by the heinous actions of pro-Ukrainian entities (government, militia, etc) in/around Donetsk.......none of which the Gov of Ukraine has held accountable.
Somethings are just unforgivable.
But of course this gets swept under the rug because it doesn't fit the EU/NATO narrative.
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