Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[Fluff]

In addition to the Tu22 lost, they also lost a su34 which crashed on its own. And a few helicopters.

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Smells off massive maintenance problems...coupled with all their stuff designed for low utilisation rates before overhaul, their long time attrition strategy towards Ukraine will face an obstacle here.

MTBO was increased to 1000 hours from 500 for the AL31.

Can now show it's feasibility in a protracted war.

Add in limited spares, fake spares etc. China will sell you anything, how long it will last fitted to a jet doing 50,000 RPM......

UK says 7 years to train a frontline pilot. They dont have the people, the trainers, the time, nor the parts. They will have robbed every wreck by now.

 

[Mike1976]

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[Mike1976]

This is airsoft, but it definitely shows the flawes of the design for MOUT.

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[Redav]

Ukraine MiG-29s Now Equipped with US ADM-160 MALD Decoy Missiles Able to Jam Modern Russian Radars.

 

[Musashi]

A Polish minister has given ol' Vik a precious hint:

Poland suggests Hungary leave EU and join "union with Putin" after Orbán criticism

In a speech on Saturday, Orbán accused Poland of "hypocrisy" for "morally lecturing" Hungary over relations with Moscow.

notesfrompoland.com

 

[NebrHogger]

And the myth of the russian air force is still alive thanks to "experts".

I remember the "outmatched" F-16s going up against the "superior dog fighter" the Serbian Mig-29s. Blown out of the sky before they even realized they were already in combat thanks to AMRAAM.

Russia is launching bombs from 60km inside it's own territory because otherwise they get shot down. At best it's a favorable air position, but in effect more often than not aerial parity. Neither can penetrate the other's air space with manned jets without incurring crippling losses and neither can intercept drones and missiles at a high enough rate.

The F-16s will enable the continuation of HARM, JDAM and AMRAAM strikes as the Su-24 and Su-27 become scarce.

The F-16s being donated are mostly MLU standard that were modernized in the early 2000s. Except for the Su-35, Su-57 and a few upgraded Su-34 and Su-30 every other aircraft in the VSK definitely has older and inferior radar and avionics than these NATO surplus jets. And those aircraft are critilically endangered unicorns due to high losses, poor maintenance and artisan workshop level production rates.

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Continue to fight or try to leg it to Timbuktu for help. Yep - time to recruit more prisoners.

 

[Soldier35]

Footage of a Russian Su-35 aircraft attacking, presumably with a Kh-35U missile, a Ukrainian ATCR-33S radar at an airfield near Kharkov. The Kh-35U missile has a range of up to 260 kilometers and has a 145-kilogram warhead, we previously wrote about them. The ATCR-33S radar was developed in Italy and is designed to control the air traffic of aircraft at a range of up to 83 km. The radar can be equipped with a G-33 parabolic antenna or an antenna with an ALE phased array. The radar's operating range is from 2700 to 2900 MHz, and its azimuth coverage is 360 degrees. As a result of the Kh-35U missile strike, the ATCR-33S radar was completely destroyed. The video also shows the impact of another Russian Kh-35U missile, near the Ukrainian Skala-M air defense radar; the radar was possibly hit by shrapnel.

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[primer]

Wonder how much of Putins personal money is in that pot under various walnut shells.

 

[Fluff]

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[RL64RL]

Add in limited spares, fake spares etc. China will sell you anything, how long it will last fitted to a jet doing 50,000 RPM......

UK says 7 years to train a frontline pilot. They dont have the people, the trainers, the time, nor the parts. They will have robbed every wreck by now.

"UK says 7 years to train a frontline pilot." I find this statistic very interesting, and I must say, possibly misleading (at least by USAF standards)

For example, US pilot training takes ~1 year. Follow-on training for various airframes can take anywhere from 3 mos - 12 mos, depending on the airframe / mission. Unit Qualification Training follows, which can be counted in weeks. Then, the pilot (or co-pilot, again, depending on the airframe) is placed on the flight schedule and is actively engaged in missions.

FWIW . . .

 

[RL64RL]

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". . . WWI was basically Japan and Germany against Russia, US, France, I mean, as the big contenders . . . "???

I must have missed this class during my ROTC days . . .

 

[NebrHogger]

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"We haven't heard from our Wagner detachment for some time, but we're sure they have matters well in hand!"

 

[Fluff]

"UK says 7 years to train a frontline pilot." I find this statistic very interesting, and I must say, possibly misleading (at least by USAF standards)

For example, US pilot training takes ~1 year. Follow-on training for various airframes can take anywhere from 3 mos - 12 mos, depending on the airframe / mission. Unit Qualification Training follows, which can be counted in weeks. Then, the pilot (or co-pilot, again, depending on the airframe) is placed on the flight schedule and is actively engaged in missions.

FWIW . . .

From USAF website:

Once you are qualified to join the Air Force as an officer, you will take this path to get your wings:

• Complete Officer Training (Air Force Academy, AFROTC, or OTS).
• Enter Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT) and begin flight training (~1 year).
• Nearing completion of UPT, you will be assigned an aircraft, which is called getting your seat assignment. Seat assignment is determined by class ranking, training performance reports, instructor recommendations, your aircraft preferences and our needs.
• Upon completion of UPT and your seat assignment, you continue flight training for the specific aircraft you were assigned (six months to one year).
• Nearing completion of your Advanced Flight Training, you will be given a squadron and location assignment. Your location preferences are considered.

You would then arrive at your new SQN, as a very junior pilot. You then have to learn each task, wingman, leader, 3 aircraft wingman, leader, 6 aircraft, and so on. Then you learn Air to air guns, then each missile, then air to ground. Takes years. Of course if a war started your off, and you learn on the job, or you die.

 

[Musashi]

"UK says 7 years to train a frontline pilot." I find this statistic very interesting, and I must say, possibly misleading (at least by USAF standards)

For example, US pilot training takes ~1 year. Follow-on training for various airframes can take anywhere from 3 mos - 12 mos, depending on the airframe / mission. Unit Qualification Training follows, which can be counted in weeks. Then, the pilot (or co-pilot, again, depending on the airframe) is placed on the flight schedule and is actively engaged in missions.

FWIW . . .

I have listened to a former Polish Air Force commander a few weeks ago and he said 7 years is pretty realistic. He said RuZZian pilots have zero initiative and are commanded from the ground by radio. Ukrainian pilots are the same and the Western way of using a plane requires re-engineering their brains. It's not something you will learn in one year or two and it's not about an air combat either. You need to learn how to attack ground targets, carry out SEAD missions and avoid enemy missiles, etc. Another guy said the best course of action would be hiring retired Western pilots who would fly Ukrainian F16s after getting Ukrainian citizenship. Delivering them in batches of 12-16 a year won't change the outcome of the war at all.

Allegedly, the first F16s have already been delivered to Ukraine.

 

[Fluff]

I have listened to a former Polish Air Force commander a few weeks ago and he said 7 years is pretty realistic. He said RuZZian pilots have zero initiative and are commanded from the ground by radio. Ukrainian pilots are the same and the Western way of using a plane requires re-engineering their brains. It's not something you will learn in one year or two and it's not about an air combat either. You need to learn how to attack ground targets, carry out SEAD missions and avoid enemy missiles, etc. Another guy said the best course of action would be hiring retired Western pilots who would fly Ukrainian F16s after getting Ukrainian citizenship. Delivering them in batches of 12-16 a year won't change the outcome of the war at all.

Allegedly, the first F16s have already been delivered to Ukraine.

It won’t win the war, but I’d bet the Russian pilots are not happy. The ukr mig29 etc, have had poor/no maintenance, they won’t last forever. And I’d trust the ukr to use the amraam etc to give the ruskis a nice welcome.

Several nato countries have been training ukr pilots, so hopefully nato practices will pervade the ukr Air Force, within reason, as we assume air superiority, stealth, air refueling etc.

 

[Mike1976]

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