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I understand that i looks like a clown with my bad english and so on, have fun)

Picanha

> Then don't start a war. Has Ukraine assaulted you in 2014 or 2022?
Assaulted by killing civialian peoples in Lugansk and all over the Urkaine by ukranian illegal armed forces like azov, right sector and so on, you can just easily find according videos with massacre was doing by that people.


> I see you follow Putler logics. Hitler also always had an excuse for assaulting countries.
To no purpose you are trying to compare Hitler with Putin, we have no concentration camp for people, we are not trying to kill all the ukranians(In fact they are russians, just look what language they are speaking in dangerous situation:)), did you see videos of bombing civilians by Russia aviation? i think not)

> Your whole country is made out of subjugated tribes and people's btw.
Our country is the same as yours, tribes is just your fantasy. Are the tribes launched first astronaut in space, its ridicuolus.

Telmar

>Russia is fighting against a nation five times smaller.
You forgot to mention all that people(mercenaries and "former" military that servicing systems like HIMARS)

>That nation gets its weapons from the West. Russia gets its weapons by some local production and Iran / China / North Korea
>So no, it's not Russia against the world. It's Russia against Ukraine.

Russia gets its weapons from USSR mostly.
Is that Russia wipes out weapons all over the world for Ukraine ? All former Warsaw Pact countries gets it's soviet weapons to the Ukraine with USA pressure.
And just a minute all that Leopard's, Bredlyes, Murders, Chalendgers, Patriots was build in urkaine ?
 
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>That's easy, just stop attacking ukraine and leave it's territory.
It is easy just stop expand NATO to the East ;)
 
Just wanted to say again that we want peace for all.
Lets not spread war all over the world.
I hope so.
 
I'm tired of this same BS excuses every time... Its not even worth the reply...
Just put him on ignore. Maybe some day the moderators might realize that allowing people to post the same outright propaganda with the exact same results each time isn't "balancing" anything.

Propaganda is propaganda regardless of whether the person posting it actually believes it themselves.
 
OK, just think about it as "propaganda".
It's easy to put me in ingore.
I understand that you have nothing to say.
 

Telmar

>Russia is fighting against a nation five times smaller.
You forgot to mention all that people(mercenaries and "former" military that servicing systems like HIMARS)

>That nation gets its weapons from the West. Russia gets its weapons by some local production and Iran / China / North Korea
>So no, it's not Russia against the world. It's Russia against Ukraine.

Russia gets its weapons from USSR mostly.
Is that Russia wipes out weapons all over the world for Ukraine ? All former Warsaw Pact countries gets it's soviet weapons to the Ukraine with USA pressure.
And just a minute all that Leopard's, Bredlyes, Murders, Chalendgers, Patriots was build in urkaine ?

As hard as it is for you to have it sink in, you are only fighting a small nation..and that does not even get 100% of what ir needs.

When Putin must pick up the soap Kim Jung Un dropped on the floor in Pyong Yang to get shells, you can have a better view of how even Russia is'nt self sufficient in artillery shells.
 
>That's easy, just stop attacking ukraine and leave it's territory.
It is easy just stop expand NATO to the East ;)
I dont think Nato is "expanding" to Russia, as that is the last country in east left out of Nato. And again, it's clear you are not interested in peace but subjucating people.

Edit: in addition, leaving Ukraine is requirement for peace. After that
for relations to normalize you need to send your war criminals to Hague (Including Putin, Lavrov and the top generals responsible for this illegal war of aggression).
 
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OK, just think about it as "propaganda".
It's easy to put me in ingore.
I understand that you have nothing to say.
Don't you Russians realize, that we naive and liberal western people tried with Russia what we have tried with each other since WW2 - strong economic ties and democracy to prevent what we went through in WW2, while you have have gone back to what started it: nationalism and authoritarianism.

Look at the state of the German military for example and tell me that it is an army that was planning to conquer Russia and oppress the Russians.
 
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OK, just think about it as "propaganda".
It's easy to put me in ingore.
I understand that you have nothing to say.

You are a paid shill for the murderous imperialist Putin. Your popular press / TV shows all talk about the need for expansion into now-free countries who have long since thrown off the Soviet chains (Poland, the Baltics). You are the aggressor nation and seem very proud of it. You say you don't have "concentration camps"? The forced deportation of Ukrainians for "reeducation" is well documented.
 
>Walks like a dvck, talks like a duck . . . .
I am not a communist, just a voice of reason

> you are only fighting a small nation..and that does not even get 100% of what ir needs.
This small nation during 8 years fired civilians in Donetsk and its suburb with artillery and other cities(just think what would you do if your childrens were under attack of artillery), i know you will blame it as Putin's propaganda
It's a part of Russian nation with brains washes out by mass media organized by structures like CIA and same organisations(like all over the world, just think about it, you do not have access to russians mass media for example, roughly speaking your are getting information from one source)
It is not small 40kk people vs 145kk (Ukraniane army was prepeared for war with Russia from 2014)
By the start of the conflict relation of forces was about 3:1 in favor of ukraine (i know you just discard this)

>I dont think Nato is "expanding" to Russia
O, really ?
Just look https://rutube.ru/video/2b23f777bb804f43e18c67c3bc39fae7/
have you teached geografy in Finland this time? Ask your parents are they happy with breaking normal relationships with Russia and taking your country in NATO.

>When Putin must pick up the soap Kim Jung Un dropped on the floor in Pyong Yang to get shells,
Your are not in jail man, just look at zelensky(former russian actor by the way) that is begging help all over the world and sending peoples for death.
 
Ask your parents are they happy with breaking normal relationships with Russia and taking your country in NATO.
Yes, very much so.

It was like a heavy burden was lifted from our shoulders when that membership became official.

I dont think Nato is "expanding" to Russia

You didn't understand my point, what a surprise.

It sure escalated quickly from "boohoo....waaah... we just want peace, western countries are breaking us apart" to russian supermacy.
 
>I dont think Nato is "expanding" to Russia
O, really ?
Just look https://rutube.ru/video/2b23f777bb804f43e18c67c3bc39fae7/
have you teached geografy in Finland this time? Ask your parents are they happy with breaking normal relationships with Russia and taking your country in NATO.
Many of our grandparents wished that we would never have to face Russia alone again after the last time your predecessor state started the international shooting competition against our neutral and unaligned nation.

What if you Russians just stay on your side of the internationally recognized borders and we Finns do the same? Then we can keep the border closed and mind our own business.
 

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