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[TIZER]

French is something you speak when you meet un-civilised people who cannot speak English

that's basically me with my Ayrshire twang ... i don't come with subtitles though

 

[BCNTM]

that's basically me with my Ayrshire twang ... i don't come with subtitles though

I don't need them

 

[BCNTM]

Brexit: Labour seeking to block no deal

The party is trying to force a vote which would take control of Commons business away from the government.

www.bbc.co.uk

Liebour scum

 

[bfc1001]

Brexit: Labour seeking to block no deal

The party is trying to force a vote which would take control of Commons business away from the government.

www.bbc.co.uk

Liebour scum

I give up with em sometimes black cat . 5 million labour voters voted brexit in 2016 . If they loose those 5 million voters they ll never win a general election ever again though I think the Tony Blair wing of the party don't really care as long as they get what they want .

 

[BCNTM]

Emmanuel Macron urges EU leaders to give Britain an ultimatum on Brexit deal

EMMANUEL Macron is lobbying fellow EU leaders to present Britain with a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum over Theresa May’s deal at next week’s summit. The French President wants Brussels chiefs to is…

www.thesun.co.uk

Time for single finger to the EU

 

[BCNTM]

EU CAN'T claim £39bn Brexit bill if Britain refuses to pay it, Brussels budget chief admits - and threatens to blackmail Britain over it instead

BRUSSELS’ budget chief has admitted the EU can’t legally force Britain to pay the £39billion divorce bill if there’s No Deal – and will try blackmailing the UK instead. German Eurocrat Gunthe…

www.thesun.co.uk

*uck em - lets see their budget unravel

 

[bfc1001]

EU CAN'T claim £39bn Brexit bill if Britain refuses to pay it, Brussels budget chief admits - and threatens to blackmail Britain over it instead

BRUSSELS’ budget chief has admitted the EU can’t legally force Britain to pay the £39billion divorce bill if there’s No Deal – and will try blackmailing the UK instead. German Eurocrat Gunthe…

www.thesun.co.uk

*uck em - lets see their budget unravel

As far as I am aware we only signed treaty's with the EU so nothing is legally binding . We can walk away whenever we want without consequence . I doubt they ll get the 39 billion anyway . After 10 years of cuts to police / healthcare / defence / education etc etc I doubt any uk political party is stupid enough to hand over free cash as it would more than likely be the death knell of their respective party .

 

[Mordoror]

i would say the EU is run by the French as the Germans always back down to the French ... i can see French being the dominant language in the EU after Brexit ... i'll nee to learn French again

Seems to me that it is the other way around ............

 

[Jake84]

The EU is/was a good idea on paper, it’s only when we started adding unnecessary poor countries like Eastern Europeans ones the thing started to crumble a bit, budget wise.

Nonetheless, The EU is by and large the largest economy in the world (implying we’d be just one country).

Oh and Boeing ... who btw?

 

[Mordoror]

The EU is/was a good idea on paper, it’s only when we started adding unnecessary poor countries like Eastern Europeans ones the thing started to crumble a bit, budget wise.

Nonetheless, The EU is by and large the largest economy in the world (implying we’d be just one country).

Oh and Boeing ... who btw?

EU was a good idea (and worked) while it remained the ECC
Pushing a political and social agenda (while worth if it was done correctly) is what killed the project

 

[Jake84]

EU was a good idea (and worked) while it remained the ECC
Pushing a political and social agenda (while worth if it was done correctly) is what killed the project

That I can agree with, but in the collective mind, and the rabble; the wealthy western nations are the one paying the dole for the rest (and it’s true too). ECC being defunct or not.

 

[bfc1001]

The EU is/was a good idea on paper, it’s only when we started adding unnecessary poor countries like Eastern Europeans ones the thing started to crumble a bit, budget wise.

Nonetheless, The EU is by and large the largest economy in the world (implying we’d be just one country).

Oh and Boeing ... who btw?

Yep , you could argue that the EU started to struggle after the rapid expansion eastwards in the early 2000s . We were left with a lopsided union ; high wages in the west , low wages in the east . What then ? Either wages were going to rise in the east to meet Western parity , or wages were going to drop in the west and meet somewhere in the middle as wages grew eastwards . I'm sure you don't need me to tell you what happened . As a footnote the biggest supporters of eastwards expansion ? The UK .

Britain to push for a firm deadline on next phase of EU expansion

Robin Cook, the Foreign Secretary, will indicate for the first time today a significant strengthening of British support for EU enlargement to the east, by calling for a target date for the end of negotiations with countries applying to join.

www.independent.co.uk

Article from 20 years ago........

 

[Jake84]

Interesting article and blast to the past bcf1001; Emmanuel Macron has picked up the slack and is now pushing for even further EU expansion to countries like the rest of the Balkans (beside Croatia already in) and possibly the Baltic. Nothing is done yet.

 

[Kriva]

The EU is/was a good idea on paper, it’s only when we started adding unnecessary poor countries like Eastern Europeans ones the thing started to crumble a bit, budget wise.

Nonetheless, The EU is by and large the largest economy in the world (implying we’d be just one country).

Oh and Boeing ... who btw?

Western nations benefit from the poor Central European nations since their accession to EU.
Western countries didn't do it for nothing.

 

[Jake84]

Western nations benefit from the poor Central European nations since their accession to EU.
Western countries didn't do it for nothing.

Quite an interesting theory that I’d like to see elaborated.

 

[bfc1001]

Western nations benefit from the poor Central European nations since their accession to EU.
Western countries didn't do it for nothing.

I'll re phrase your first sentence kriva for accuracy .

" Western capitalists benefit from the poor Central European nation's since their accession to EU. "

 

[BCNTM]

I'll re phrase your first sentence kriva for accuracy .

" Western capitalists benefit from the poor Central European nation's since their accession to EU. "

yes drove down little peoples pay - drove up house prices - so little people ended up renting and paying capitalists

Nothing good came out of Europe and you wonder why the UK voted to leave

 

[TIZER]

The EU is/was a good idea on paper, it’s only when we started adding unnecessary poor countries like Eastern Europeans ones the thing started to crumble a bit, budget wise.

Nonetheless, The EU is by and large the largest economy in the world (implying we’d be just one country).

Oh and Boeing ... who btw?

it was the UK who wanted Eastern European nations in the EU the plan was to weaken Germany and France's control over the EU .... my biggest issue with this is after welcoming in Eastern europeans into the EU more should be done to help there economies and there living standards the poverty levels in rural areas like Roumania, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania is quite shocking

 

[bfc1001]

it was the UK who wanted Eastern European nations in the EU the plan was to weaken Germany and France's control over the EU .... my biggest issue with this is after welcoming in Eastern europeans into the EU more should be done to help there economies and there living standards the poverty levels in rural areas like Roumania, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania is quite shocking

History would certainly back up your claim ,the old divide and conquer strategy has often been used by the UK though in this case I think they just wanted the cheap labour and use it as a tool to control inflation and also for a small minority to create immense wealth . Funny how they went right ahead and just did it without any reasoned debate on what it meant economically for everyone though anyone who pushed against it would have simply been branded a racist .

 

[Mordoror]

Quite an interesting theory that I’d like to see elaborated.

He is somehow correct: larger market, low wage skilled manpower, industries and infrastructures to reboot
It benefits industry tycoons. Probably not average Joes