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what happened to the INAS rifle ? most of the picture I see the soldier are using ak instead of INAS in conflict zone , is INAS a fail gun ? + DHRUV seem to be a nice helicopter to replace our UH1H fleet
The INSAS has come of age and the AKs are stop gap until the AK203s, SIG 716i and a new carbine induction is complete. And rather than the Dhruv, ig the HAL Advanced Light Utility Helicopter would be a better candidate to replace the UH1H. Cheers.
 
what happened to the INAS rifle ? most of the picture I see the soldier are using ak instead of INAS in conflict zone , is INAS a fail gun ? + DHRUV seem to be a nice helicopter to replace our UH1H fleet
20-25 years old INSAS 1B & 1B1 variants are currently getting replaced. Now it's next iteration INSAS AR/1C is under production for limited numbers. Another iteration of series Excalibur has bagged 30,000+ orders from the Central Armed Police Forces, Paramilitary & State Police Forces. Flaws from INSAS rectified & there are no major issues in Excalibur series.

The failure percentage in 1B variant was 20-30 % which is basically 30 rifles used to fail per 100 for various reasons like magazine cracking, oil spilling, jamming, over heating of barrel, barrel bulging etc. According to military standards these failures were huge. More modifications were done in 1B1 but it wasn't still satisfactory. But only good thing about these two old variants was they were extreme accurate firearms with very little recoil. No doubt about that.

Later Excalibur series was introduced. Now it's MK-1 variant is most successful local small arm in past 10 years in India. But Army's requirement standards were high so paramilitary & state police forces are using the latest variants.

INSAS 1B (Getting Replaced)
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INSAS 1B1 (Getting Replaced)
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INSAS 1C (Limited Production) also known as 5.56x45mm AR. Shorter 16 inch barrel variants instead of 18.3 Inch barrel variants in INSAS 1B & 1B1.
Full Auto mode added instead of 3 round bursts.
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Excalibur (Production stopped for this variant after 5000-10,000 produced)
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Excalibur MK-1 (Currently under production with 20,000-30,000 already made & more on order.)
Original Excalibur handguard was discontinued & older INSAS handguard brought back again
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7.62x51mm Battle Rifle variant under development phase named as R2
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5.56x30mm INSAS AMOGH Carbine (Production stopped after few thousands made)
In service with Indian Coast Guard & Police Forces
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This me and INSAS rifle in the year 2005, when it was fairly new rifles. My dad's friend was in the army and one day he invited me to shoot the INSAS rifle. I got a 30-minute instruction from field stripping to how to fire. The first few rounds I fired very slowly as the dust was flying toward me and I wasn't wearing any safety goggles. After that, I empty two magazines and score 90% hit at the 200-meter range and the instructor was quite impressed not so with the Sterling submachine gun tho that would be another story. It was a smooth rifle, doesn't kick much however the critics from the soldier mostly Nepalese were that the handguard was too wide but as for me it was ok. Yes, the rifle has it flaw, even the M-16 or SA80 had flaws at initial days but it was ratified but with Indian cases, God knows after testing just about every gun on the globe the army choose the INSAS and a few decades later after again testing tons of guns to the frustration fo the companies they pause and out of sudden choose the SIG 716 G2, guess INSAS can soldier on for few more decades and these are shown by maturing products. It is just my one chai views.
 

This me and INSAS rifle in the year 2005, when it was fairly new rifles. My dad's friend was in the army and one day he invited me to shoot the INSAS rifle. I got a 30-minute instruction from field stripping to how to fire. The first few rounds I fired very slowly as the dust was flying toward me and I wasn't wearing any safety goggles. After that, I empty two magazines and score 90% hit at the 200-meter range and the instructor was quite impressed not so with the Sterling submachine gun tho that would be another story. It was a smooth rifle, doesn't kick much however the critics from the soldier mostly Nepalese were that the handguard was too wide but as for me it was ok. Yes, the rifle has it flaw, even the M-16 or SA80 had flaws at initial days but it was ratified but with Indian cases, God knows after testing just about every gun on the globe the army choose the INSAS and a few decades later after again testing tons of guns to the frustration fo the companies they pause and out of sudden choose the SIG 716 G2, guess INSAS can soldier on for few more decades and these are shown by maturing products. It is just my one chai views.
the critics about hand guard being too wide is similar to our soldier complain about the gali ace hand guard too :) which later we modify it to more slim hand guard :) seem like yellow Asian problem :) our finger are not that long :) . I ask the question cause from all the photo I seen from Kashmir indian soldier used ak instead of the INSAS so there must be some problem if the troop in conflict zone prefer ak over INSAS + india kinda weird you guy buy way too must variant of weapon , need to standarnize and support domestic industry cant relied on buying weapon for ever , if anyone can compete the Chinese it will be indian if you guy can solve your internal issue and social issue , grad to see indian made way in helicopter develop , next I hope indian will be more strong in jet fighter and naval + missile develop + it kinda weird india chose ak103 variant ( 203 pretty much a upgrade ak103 ) instead of ak12-15 series
 
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india need to develop a domestic VLS system like the Chinese ( or american mk41 , Russian vls system is outdate , anti ship used it own type of vls , air defense used it own style of vls made a ship carry less vls then same weight Chinese or ship with a mk41 vls )and design/built a ship like the type54a class that can do anti ship , anti air , anti sub ship and built in huge number to lower the cost + export to partner country like Vietnam ( licens built ) and have higher export chance to other country , a modern navy cant support a huge fleet of specialize role ship like this ( remember india navy enemy are china navy and Pakistan ( which recent year get huge boot from the Chinese , selling type 54 and who know what next , the Chinese are selling weapon to Pakistan nearly at domestic price + with out down grade , look at the vt4 they export to thai land and Pakistan and you will see , the Pakistan get better ERA (and maybe better FCS not a down grade version like on thai ) for a much cheaper price + they are giving the Pakistan licens to made missile and other weapon them self , indian need to follow china style , sell weapon with domestic price to it trust partner and also give licens to it partn )
 
the critics about hand guard being too wide is similar to our soldier complain about the gali ace hand guard too :) which later we modify it to more slim hand guard :) seem like yellow Asian problem :) our finger are not that long :) . I ask the question cause from all the photo I seen from Kashmir indian soldier used ak instead of the INSAS so there must be some problem if the troop in conflict zone prefer ak over INSAS + india kinda weird you guy buy way too must variant of weapon , need to standarnize and support domestic industry cant relied on buying weapon for ever , if anyone can compete the Chinese it will be indian if you guy can solve your internal issue and social issue , grad to see indian made way in helicopter develop , next I hope indian will be more strong in jet fighter and naval + missile develop + it kinda weird india chose ak103 variant ( 203 pretty much a upgrade ak103 ) instead of ak12-15 series
Hello Mate,
As per the logic, the reason for us shifting to 5.56 like any major army was that it would be wise to wound a soldier than kill one and while doing so his buddy will help him and there might be a void in strength well that is for conventional warfare. But then terrorist doesn't believe in such logic and they are willing to die than surrender so killing power is very important and hence the 7.62x39 was the choice and Aks type was chosen. I read a news article about 2 decades ago Indian got Romanian AK at a very cheap price of under 150$. But, remember conflict is not only at Kashmir there was a huge active insurgency beginning early 80s peak in the 90s and now less peaceful in the North-Eastern states of India. The terrain being closed to Jungle type with humid and muddy environment AKs was the weapon of choice. Aks we might have different variants from different countries but all use the same bullets.
India has four types of active conflict IMHO, in the range 0 being none to 10 being the most active
1) Kashmir 9/10
2) Naxal/Maoist (Central India) 6/10
3) North East India insurgency 4/10
4) Domestic terrorist/Fanatic influenced terrorist/Dacoit/Gang etc 4/10
Regarding Ak-203 it is more of political choice than army choice IMHO(the deal has not turned into action yet like the Kamov deal) and you never know with Indian procurement. The only good thing is now the Army is using Sig 716 in the hot zone.
Anyway, I come to Vietnam we eat Pho and talk about it ok?
 
Hello Mate,
As per the logic, the reason for us shifting to 5.56 like any major army was that it would be wise to wound a soldier than kill one and while doing so his buddy will help him and there might be a void in strength well that is for conventional warfare. But then terrorist doesn't believe in such logic and they are willing to die than surrender so killing power is very important and hence the 7.62x39 was the choice and Aks type was chosen. I read a news article about 2 decades ago Indian got Romanian AK at a very cheap price of under 150$. But, remember conflict is not only at Kashmir there was a huge active insurgency beginning early 80s peak in the 90s and now less peaceful in the North-Eastern states of India. The terrain being closed to Jungle type with humid and muddy environment AKs was the weapon of choice. Aks we might have different variants from different countries but all use the same bullets.
India has four types of active conflict IMHO, in the range 0 being none to 10 being the most active
1) Kashmir 9/10
2) Naxal/Maoist (Central India) 6/10
3) North East India insurgency 4/10
4) Domestic terrorist/Fanatic influenced terrorist/Dacoit/Gang etc 4/10
Regarding Ak-203 it is more of political choice than army choice IMHO(the deal has not turned into action yet like the Kamov deal) and you never know with Indian procurement. The only good thing is now the Army is using Sig 716 in the hot zone.
Anyway, I come to Vietnam we eat Pho and talk about it ok?
yes ak used same ammunition , but im talking about your army buying gun like sig 716 and other type of gun like a m4 variant from uae + INSAS , way too much diffirent ammunition type ( 5,56 , 7,62x39 ,7,62x51 , 7,62x54) that why indian always have issue with ammunition , need to standarnize a set of ammunition either chose 7,62x39 or 5,56 , 5,56 can be used for special force or special unit ( like in the case of Vietnam , all standar troop are used 7,62x39 , only marine , recon and special force used 5,56 => less problem on logistic ) meanwhile india army used 5,56 and 7,62x39 and now 7,62x51 for it normal troop which will creat huge problem if real war broke out with the Chinese , even the Chinese and American doesn't used that wide range of ammunition for it standar troop. btw yup after covid 19 end do come to Vietnam :) btw can you eat pho ? majority of pho used beef :) maybe you can eat chicken pho :)
 
Hello Mate,
As per the logic, the reason for us shifting to 5.56 like any major army was that it would be wise to wound a soldier than kill one and while doing so his buddy will help him and there might be a void in strength well that is for conventional warfare. But then terrorist doesn't believe in such logic and they are willing to die than surrender so killing power is very important and hence the 7.62x39 was the choice and Aks type was chosen. I read a news article about 2 decades ago Indian got Romanian AK at a very cheap price of under 150$. But, remember conflict is not only at Kashmir there was a huge active insurgency beginning early 80s peak in the 90s and now less peaceful in the North-Eastern states of India. The terrain being closed to Jungle type with humid and muddy environment AKs was the weapon of choice. Aks we might have different variants from different countries but all use the same bullets.
India has four types of active conflict IMHO, in the range 0 being none to 10 being the most active
1) Kashmir 9/10
2) Naxal/Maoist (Central India) 6/10
3) North East India insurgency 4/10
4) Domestic terrorist/Fanatic influenced terrorist/Dacoit/Gang etc 4/10
Regarding Ak-203 it is more of political choice than army choice IMHO(the deal has not turned into action yet like the Kamov deal) and you never know with Indian procurement. The only good thing is now the Army is using Sig 716 in the hot zone.
Anyway, I come to Vietnam we eat Pho and talk about it ok?
are the maoist support by china and are they pro china ? kinda weird they are maoist instead of being just communist , maoist communist normally turn wacko after they gain power , aka look at Khmer rouge from a normal communist after being taken over by the pro maoist Polpot it turn into a barbaric war criminal gang that kill million of Cambodian and thousand of Vietnamese and other ethnic ( lao , thai , ethnic minority , ..... )
 
yes ak used same ammunition , but im talking about your army buying gun like sig 716 and other type of gun like a m4 variant from uae + INSAS , way too much diffirent ammunition type ( 5,56 , 7,62x39 ,7,62x51 , 7,62x54) that why indian always have issue with ammunition , need to standarnize a set of ammunition either chose 7,62x39 or 5,56 , 5,56 can be used for special force or special unit ( like in the case of Vietnam , all standar troop are used 7,62x39 , only marine , recon and special force used 5,56 => less problem on logistic ) meanwhile india army used 5,56 and 7,62x39 and now 7,62x51 for it normal troop which will creat huge problem if real war broke out with the Chinese , even the Chinese and American doesn't used that wide range of ammunition for it standar troop. btw yup after covid 19 end do come to Vietnam :) btw can you eat pho ? majority of pho used beef :) maybe you can eat chicken pho :)

are the maoist support by china and are they pro china ? kinda weird they are maoist instead of being just communist , maoist communist normally turn wacko after they gain power , aka look at Khmer rouge from a normal communist after being taken over by the pro maoist Polpot it turn into a barbaric war criminal gang that kill million of Cambodian and thousand of Vietnamese and other ethnic ( lao , thai , ethnic minority , ..... )
Before Sig 716, we used the FN FAL/SLR and we have plenty of 7.62X51, now the Army mostly uses two types of rounds 7.62x39 (Aks) and 5.56x45(Tavor and INSAS) It is been a while since that Indian Army is using mixed round and I guess they are used to it. Indian and Chinese don't use the same rounds so in future conflict one cannot pick other rounds as using it 5.8x42 and the thing is Chinese are using only that round our worldwide so supply will never be a problem.
Indian Naxal or Maoist is a communist ideology based on Mao, don't know about Chinese connection but they are mostly in central India and tribal belt so it would be hard to penetrate or supply arms and ammunitions.
Nepal Maoists and Indian Maoists might have some connections as they are more or less on the same ideology.
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No worries I can eat just about anything.
 
Before Sig 716, we used the FN FAL/SLR and we have plenty of 7.62X51, now the Army mostly uses two types of rounds 7.62x39 (Aks) and 5.56x45(Tavor and INSAS) It is been a while since that Indian Army is using mixed round and I guess they are used to it. Indian and Chinese don't use the same rounds so in future conflict one cannot pick other rounds as using it 5.8x42 and the thing is Chinese are using only that round our worldwide so supply will never be a problem.
Indian Naxal or Maoist is a communist ideology based on Mao, don't know about Chinese connection but they are mostly in central India and tribal belt so it would be hard to penetrate or supply arms and ammunitions.
Nepal Maoists and Indian Maoists might have some connections as they are more or less on the same ideology.
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No worries I can eat just about anything.
cool that you can eat beef :) I know a indian guy who eat at our restaurant ( and give me a bag of indian money ( kinda dirty money to be honest ) at a gift ) the guy cant eat beef and only eat chicken and fish :) and from time only eat vegetarian food :) what I worry is that if war broke out with the Chinese and Pakistan 4 type of ammunition will be a burden to your guy logistic ( 5,56 , 7,62x39,7,62x51 , 7,62x54 ) , the Chinese are smart in using a standar set of ammunition 5,58 for rifle to lmg and even they general purpose machine gun also used 5,58 ( but hotter load and much more heavy round but can fire the same standar 5,58 ) . weird that indian communist chose maoist idealogy ( what with maoist idealogy that Asian communist love about lol ? ) , btw is india have any plan to develop a domestic VLS that similar to mk41 or the Chinese vls that can used wide range of missile ? that will be a huge boot for indian navy and to Vietnam too ( we cant get mk 41 , Russian vls is out date , antiship missile used it own type of vls while anti air used it own type @@ )
 

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