Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[Mark Sman]

Who is under the most pressure for a deal Friday? By far, Putin.

3.5 years, perhaps a million casualties, maybe trillions of Rubles, an economy teetering on collapse - and for what? A failed war in stalemate. And if no deal and the war continues indefinitely, again what? How does he justify it? I know some feel he is invincible, but he certainly doesn't have the free reign of say a Stalin. There are some political cracks starting. The South Caucuses are no longer under Russian control but under US, thanks to Putin's Ukraine distraction. The fact that the US sanctioned India, a large and powerful country, (not some insignificant $hithole), last week is a crafted pre- summit message to Putin. The message is, we are serious about destroying your economy.

So, Putin has things to consider. I don't believe he has the political capital to continue this war indefinitely. His strategy in the past 6 months has been to pretend to negotiate while trying to make advances in Ukraine. Again, he's failed. As cool as he tries to look, he needs a deal - badly.

Trump on the other hand could simply walk away, and it would not affect the life of an average American one bit. Sure, Trump has pledged to bring an end to this war, but if unsuccessful, more or less, "oh well".

Whatever happens, Zelensky must "appear" to be vehemently against any deal. I totally expect that.

With all that said, I'd imagine the bulk of what will be discussed has already been agreed to.

And it's also interesting to me that with all the absolutely strident Trump hate I see from many of you here, it's not the Europeans meeting with Putin. So...in that way, Trump is your man, like him or not.

Welp, we'll see how things go....

In Ye Olden Days when the big fish surfaced all of the details had already been worked out.

I'm not really sure that is what is at work here.

 

[Chazman]

In Ye Olden Days when the big fish surfaced all of the details had already been worked out.

I'm not really sure that is what is at work here.

I still give a slight chance to Putin no-showing, due to some "emergency".

 

[Musashi]

MAGA = MRGA

A CIA deputy director to get sn Order of Lebin from Putain, as her son was killed fighting against Ukraine:

Putin gives Trump envoy award for CIA official's son

Michael Gloss, 21, who was killed in Ukraine last year, was the son of Juliane Gallina, a CIA deputy director,

www.bbc.co.uk

No Lada this time.

 

[Connaught Ranger]

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[Soldier35]

Footage of the destruction of the Ukrainian FP-1 kamikaze drone by a Russian laser air defense system. The location of the shooting is not reported. The FP-1 long-range kamikaze drone was developed by the Ukrainian-Czech concern UAC and was first shown in May 2025. The FP-1 UAV is launched using a rocket booster and has a flight range of up to 1,600 km, the mass of the warhead is from 60 to 113 kg. The cost of the FP-1 drone is about 100 thousand dollars.

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[Fluff]

In Ye Olden Days when the big fish surfaced all of the details had already been worked out.

I'm not really sure that is what is at work here.

I always feel it’s a done deal, when they start meeting.

So I’d expect putin and z to flunk out protest etc.so their citizens can see how much they don’t want this.

Trump will bang the desk on both of them, then all 3 appear on a balcony and sing kumbaya, or drink american whisky, or both….

 

[Fluff]

I still give a slight chance to Putin no-showing, due to some "emergency".

And sends medleved,that’s going to go well….putin will show….

 

[primer]

Two egos play at drawing a line.

 

[Fluff]

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[NebrHogger]

And sends medleved,that’s going to go well….putin will show….

If drinking American whisky is involved, Dima will be there! Or drinking of any kind for that matter.

Poor Dima - perpetual poster child of the International Liver Abuse Foundation!

 

[profyler]

Just saw Zelenski mega convoy passing here in front of my office in Berlin. I hope he gets better deals with Merz than waiting for something reasonable from orange man..

 

[Soldier35]

Footage of combat operations in Donbass, the Russian air defense system "Tor-M2DT". The 9K331MDT air defense system is rarely shown by the Russian army, and there is practically no footage of its combat operations. The Tor-M2DT air defense system was used by the Russian group of forces "East", in the South Donetsk direction. The video shows the defeat of an unknown model of Ukrainian drone by the Tor-M2DT air defense system.

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[Chazman]

And sends medleved,that’s going to go well….putin will show….

I'd buy tickets to that!

 

[Chazman]

I always feel it’s a done deal, when they start meeting.

So I’d expect putin and z to flunk out protest etc.so their citizens can see how much they don’t want this.

Trump will bang the desk on both of them, then all 3 appear on a balcony and sing kumbaya, or drink american whisky, or both….

It'll be interesting and I agree, much has already been agreed to before the meeting. Trump doesn't drink though, so someone else will drink his share of whiskey.

 

[Chazman]

Just saw Zelenski mega convoy passing here in front of my office in Berlin. I hope he gets better deals with Merz than waiting for something reasonable from orange man..

Yes, I hope he opens up the check book and gives the Z man trillions of Euros.

 

[Chazman]

 

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Obviously, Putin is making a pre-summit move. I'm not sure if these Russian gains are well supported. Not much logistics or armor, etc. The Russian casualties are also horrendous. It would be interesting if this Russian salient was cut off before the meeting.

 

[Chazman]

Seems pretty clear that a ceasefire has already been negotiated for Friday.

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[Chazman]

How long before they rebel?

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