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Actually acting on one's threats would be a start. Taking a leaf out of Lord Halifax's book would be another.@muck how would you do it then?
All this meeting has done is give Putin more time to create fait accompli in Ukraine and increase his international standing by earning recognition from the USA. Trump's inviting Putin to bilateral talks in the US has only sent one message to the world: Russia has risen to pre-1990 levels again, is again on equal footing with America and is again in a position to force the US to concede to Russian land-grabs. Trump has granted Putin a diplomatic victory and earned nothing in return.So you wish this meeting never happened? This meeting happening was a fvck up? I mean, that's what you said.
You've assured me many a time that Trump wields the power to destroy Russia's economy and halt its advance. How come Trump won't use that power?
How is the situation now any better than what it was under Biden?
His inner circle is sworn to Putin and sworn to this war's goals. I'm not sure what makes you believe otherwise. Besides, Russian dictatorships are everything but brittle. Russia has been a dictatorship throughout most of its existence.The point of my post was something different. The point I was making was, even if Putin plays this off, his inner circle is aware that the game is at an endpoint. Perhaps more significant than we imagine. Dictatorships are powerful but brittle. Certainly there are moves behind the scenes that we are not aware of.
And what makes you sure there are "moves behind the scenes we are not aware of"?
Even 'Fox News' (!!!) says Trump got steamrolled by Putin, and calls the summit a failure.
In 2022, we were mocking Macron's phone calls with Putin (and rightly so).
I fail to see why this meeting should be treated differently.
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