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Warfare Russia/Ukraine War
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Apparently Russia is close to finishing a cauldron around Ukranian/Azov forces in the Donbass region (Izyum).
Which made me wonder...
Considering Russia's negotiation offers (which are now the same as before the war), and the progress being made regarding these negotiations, could it be that Zelinsky is treating that "cauldroned Azov" as an opportunity to get rid of the most radical and nefarious part of Ukraine's political apparatus? Not only by getting rid of the "not neo-nazis don't say that word it hurts my feelings" among the armed forces, but also exposing those within more local positions (mayors, and such).
It seems, at least to me, that Putin does not want Zelinsky dead or he would have been killed long ago. Unless Putin's plan was to capture Zelinsky and have him face a tribunal for whatever reason, but Zelinsky is no Saddam or Gadaffi, and the idea is grotesque to begin with.
Sending assassins is equally grotesque, in addition to being theatrically cliché. But also risky, not necessarily efficient and/or guaranteed in term of accomplishment.
Precision strike then? Russia has a fair amount of precision vectors, and Russia has demonstrated it can strike more or less anywhere in Ukraine with reasonable accuracy. I suppose Zelinsky does not reside at one place for too long and is constantly moved from one place to another, it may also be possible that the Cold War facilities built in case of nuclear war are still there and functional; but in the end their locations are known.
Zelinsky appears to be a rather charismatic leader in the eyes of his people, and now the world. With lots of media focus, lots of media attention, but also lots of appearances and "PR stunts" (for lack of a better term) impromptus.
Depriving Ukraine and the coalition behind Ukraine of that leading figure would have serious and catastrophic impacts on the morale. Removing Zelinsky would create a vacuum, but who would fill it? Poroshenko? Yanukovich? Not sure anybody would want them in a position of power in that specific time of crisis.
Which made me wonder...
Considering Russia's negotiation offers (which are now the same as before the war), and the progress being made regarding these negotiations, could it be that Zelinsky is treating that "cauldroned Azov" as an opportunity to get rid of the most radical and nefarious part of Ukraine's political apparatus? Not only by getting rid of the "not neo-nazis don't say that word it hurts my feelings" among the armed forces, but also exposing those within more local positions (mayors, and such).
It seems, at least to me, that Putin does not want Zelinsky dead or he would have been killed long ago. Unless Putin's plan was to capture Zelinsky and have him face a tribunal for whatever reason, but Zelinsky is no Saddam or Gadaffi, and the idea is grotesque to begin with.
Sending assassins is equally grotesque, in addition to being theatrically cliché. But also risky, not necessarily efficient and/or guaranteed in term of accomplishment.
Precision strike then? Russia has a fair amount of precision vectors, and Russia has demonstrated it can strike more or less anywhere in Ukraine with reasonable accuracy. I suppose Zelinsky does not reside at one place for too long and is constantly moved from one place to another, it may also be possible that the Cold War facilities built in case of nuclear war are still there and functional; but in the end their locations are known.
Zelinsky appears to be a rather charismatic leader in the eyes of his people, and now the world. With lots of media focus, lots of media attention, but also lots of appearances and "PR stunts" (for lack of a better term) impromptus.
Depriving Ukraine and the coalition behind Ukraine of that leading figure would have serious and catastrophic impacts on the morale. Removing Zelinsky would create a vacuum, but who would fill it? Poroshenko? Yanukovich? Not sure anybody would want them in a position of power in that specific time of crisis.
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Hopefully they are more conscientious than at the start of the war.
You know, crosses spray paint on the roads, Ukrainian armored vehicles being mistaken for Russian ones by local militias, SOF unit being arrested by the police and treated as "Russians disguised as Ukrainians" (funny how that kind of "incident" is not reported on anymore).
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it is almost as if there are 2 wars going on.
The Russians claim to be advancing.
The Ukr claim to be destroying and capturing literally tons of vehicles, tanks etc.
Russia has on paper a strong air force, and yet the Ukr can line up MLRS in the open, and attack the Russians.
What next?
The Russians claim to be advancing.
The Ukr claim to be destroying and capturing literally tons of vehicles, tanks etc.
Russia has on paper a strong air force, and yet the Ukr can line up MLRS in the open, and attack the Russians.
What next?
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I mean come on, 230$/month to sell your freedom to the Ukrainians. At least the Syrians are getting 1000$. (according to this article)
Fighters with Ukraine’s foreign legion are being asked to sign indefinite contracts. Some have refused
Jake Priday wanted to do his bit. His Ukrainian adventure lasted nine hourswww.economist.com
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So I take it that neither side will hold off from leveling residential buildings to get to a juicy enemy target.
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Sic semper erat, et sic semper erit.
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Galeev is Russian himself and he understands Russian society and culture from the inside. His analysis is invaluable.
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IF this is true, then the gap between Russian forces in Barvenkovo on the north, and their forces in Novotroicke in the south is about 120km. Russian forces can close that gap next week.
It wont be easy that is for sure. Vuhledar (14k residents 33% Russians) will probably be attacked tomorrow or day after tomorrow..
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According to Ukrainian presidential adviser Arestovych says that the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have the ability to launch a deblocking strike to break the encirclement of Mariupol, but he expects the forces there to be able to hold off the Russians.
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Ukraine presidential adviser says talks with Russia are ongoing 'right now'
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