Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

[Ivan le Fou]

Russia barely has enough to equip it's own forces, never mind supplying foreign adventures against neutral powers. Especially since their involvement would remove any political obstructions to Israel supplying weapons to Ukraine. It would hurt russia way more than it would help.

This no doubt is supported by Iran.

Iran is involved, assuredly.

When you get a glimpse at the logistics used by Hamas for that operation. Yeah, it is rather obvious.

 

[Fluff]

I have a feeling most of the hostages will end up being held in Hamas controlled buildings as human shields.

I expect that will not stop Israel, from bombing any targets. If Israel did hold off, eventually hostages would be traded, and Israel then attacks, so no win for Palestinians.
If Palestinians start shooting hostages, many Palestinians will die. It’s a real mess. Sending a few hundred troops into Israel is a propaganda coupe, and a disaster for Gaza at least.

For info there are about 2.1m people in Gaza. Could Israel clear Gaza? I don’t know, but it must be one of many options. Presumably Israel just ‘pushes’ them all into Egypt?not a task for the feint hearted, but if you were bibi what options do you have, that would improve Israeli security?

All of this leads back to Iran, so expect some fireworks there, in the coming days. Which in my opinion makes it all a dumb move by Gaza and Iran.

 

[Fluff]

Just an additional thought, where does water come from, in Gaza? Does Israel control it?

 

[Mike1976]

Just an additional thought, where does water come from, in Gaza? Does Israel control it?

"The water resources of Palestine are fully controlled by Israel"
The same with electricity.

Cut off every utility right away.

 

[IDF_TANKER]

Almost no doubt in my mind it's about upcoming Saudi-Israel peace deal.
The timing, the intensity, the MO - this is a qualitatively different thing from everything we've seen so far.
They basically are trying to replicate 2006 Second Lebanon War - hostages mean necessity of ground invasion on the scale not seen even during the Cast Lead operation.
The ground invasion on this scale means protracted conflict with several thousands Palestinian casualties. This will put tremendous pressure on Saudis to withdraw from the peace process (not to mention US sponsoring it).
Ayatollas just went all in - almost. There is only one major ace left, the Hizbollah. One of the local ministers already warned, that the whole thing might be a diversion before Hezzies join in. Then it's really going to be interesting...

 

[Musashi]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1710617002040082636?s=61&t=kKpA1yYF7O3cXFK4tUgpBA

 

[Mike1976]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1710617002040082636?s=61&t=kKpA1yYF7O3cXFK4tUgpBA

I'm not seeing any weapons at all. Could these be arab Israelis?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I'm not seeing any weapons at all. Could these be arab Israelis?

Settlers probably.

 

[NoOne]

The Israeli services were caught with their pants down due to anti-Bibi pro-Democratic protests that have been going for a few months.

This is a warning to certain other countries who feel that they can indulge in endless internecine conflict and their enemies will obligingly just stand by.

 

[Mike1976]

Settlers probably.

I obviously meant the terrorists ...

 

[Musashi]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1710635212332224742?s=61&t=kKpA1yYF7O3cXFK4tUgpBA

 

[Hiryu2.0]

Land forces of Seven Israeli battalions entered Gaza-area communities to neutralize Hamas & rescue residents; IDF eliminates 3 hamas squads near Gaza border
via @N12News

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I obviously meant the terrorists ...

Ah.

Well... Gazaites, people running behind Hamas, etc...

 

[Hiryu2.0]

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[Musashi]

“Doctors” and “engineers” look happy:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1710624284685508771?s=61&t=kKpA1yYF7O3cXFK4tUgpBA

And das Euroreich wants to make a law to share them between EU countries.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[Hiryu2.0]

My condolences to all who suffer.
I hope now Israel realizes that you can’t have a normal relationship with ruZZia. How that’s even possible to miss such huge attack? Where’s MOSSAD?

GASA
is the domain of military intelligence, but you're right.

 

[NoOne]

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Not surprising. There is no love lost between Hamas and Hezbollah but the enemy of my enemy...

As some on here have already posited, Iran has it's paws on this, and there are many reasons to fan these flames. The problem for Iran is that once released, chaos by it's nature cannot be controlled. It has no master.

Israel will absolutely deal out violent retribution to Hamas including a ground invasion and Hezbollah realizes this. They should have joined in immediately rather than jaw-boning, because reserves are now heading north as well as south.

 

[Fluff]

Almost no doubt in my mind it's about upcoming Saudi-Israel peace deal.
The timing, the intensity, the MO - this is a qualitatively different thing from everything we've seen so far.
They basically are trying to replicate 2006 Second Lebanon War - hostages mean necessity of ground invasion on the scale not seen even during the Cast Lead operation.
The ground invasion on this scale means protracted conflict with several thousands Palestinian casualties. This will put tremendous pressure on Saudis to withdraw from the peace process (not to mention US sponsoring it).
Ayatollas just went all in - almost. There is only one major ace left, the Hizbollah. One of the local ministers already warned, that the whole thing might be a diversion before Hezzies join in. Then it's really going to be interesting...

What’s the status for Israelis having guns at home?