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Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

Devil is in the details. Where does the line end up?

If the line is someplace that leaves Israel with a defensible border I think they should consider it. Could a deal like this lead to a long peace? Even a medium term peace?
 
Great news. They say they'll take their case to the Court Of Appeal next, I'll be sure to email my local MP and give them all the information that is often missing from the conversation about a "totally peaceful, non-violent protest group" like the support for terrorist groups including inviting people with links to said groups to their gatherings as speakers. Not to mention their charter which makes it clear the occupation of Palestine is from 1948 onwards (gee I wonder what they could mean by that dot dot dot) etc.
 
1 Hamas baddie, 29 civilians
That's not what it says though is it, it says 29 people indentified, of which some are civilians and are at least one is Hamas (which the "Gaza Health Ministry" never tells you), and it's implied via a IDF source that there are more. The identified terrorist was allegedly a commander also responsible for moving money for the group, so that's a high-value target right there, cutting money off from Hamas will seriously impact their funding and ability to maintain their forces, which advances the goals of the war. Israel sure as S**t isn't going to share intelligence with the BBC which is what they complain about repeatedly, journalists don't have an automatic right to whatever they want when they want it.
 

Trump says Hamas response to Gaza ceasefire-hostage deal should come in 24 hours

Terror group said to show ‘flexibility’ on issue of disarmament, may agree to exile symbolic number of officials; says it will respond after talks with Gazan factions

US President Donald Trump on Friday said it will probably be known in 24 hours how Palestinian terror group Hamas will respond to a proposal for a ceasefire and hostage release deal with Israel.

Earlier reports indicated that Hamas would issue a formal response at some point on Friday, while the terror group said in a statement its official response would be given after consultations with all Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip.

Trump also said Friday that Gazans have “been through hell,” dodging a reporter’s question about whether he still plans for the US to take over the Strip.

“I want the people of Gaza to be safe,” he answered.

The reporter was referring to the plan announced by Trump in February to take over the Strip and permanently relocate all Palestinians there, turning the land instead into a resort destination. While the plan was welcomed by the Israeli government, Arab countries fervently refused US and Israeli requests to take in Palestinians, arguing that Gazans should be allowed to remain on their land and warning that allowing such an initiative under these conditions will simply export the conflict into their borders.

Trump has reportedly been leaning on Netanyahu hard to wrap the conflict up, I sure do hope that he's using his buddy buddy influence with Qatar to get them to also lean on Hamas hard as well so that the war will actually end with the hostages freed and that death cult being forced to disarm and relinquish power, they need to know without a shadow of a doubt that they are done for good...
 



Trump has reportedly been leaning on Netanyahu hard to wrap the conflict up, I sure do hope that he's using his buddy buddy influence with Qatar to get them to also lean on Hamas hard as well so that the war will actually end with the hostages freed and that death cult being forced to disarm and relinquish power, they need to know without a shadow of a doubt that they are done for good...
I think the only culmination for Israel here is going to be an all in elimination of Hamas. Military or political.

At this point why wouldn't Israel stick it out to the end? Why leave an Iranian proxy force on your border when they know Iran will do every thing possible to reconstitute Hamas.
 
I honestly stopped concerning myself with all the rumors, news and debates about ceasefire and negotiations a long time ago.
For two reasons:

First, it’s almost impossible to separate noise from the signal.

Second, it simply doesn’t matter. If we consider the Hamas survivability as a some sort of combined score of available resources (human, weapons, infrastructure, living hostages etc), outside support (Axis of Resistance/Ring of Fire) and degree of control over territory and population - a plot would show steadily declining curve with a few flat patches around hostage releases.
At some point the curve is going to hit a collapse threshold. In simple terms, at some point they are going to run out of munitions, living hostages, people able to hold a rifle or just anyone with degree of authority etc.
Perhaps, not as soon as I hoped, but barring a black swan eventuality, this is a mathematical inevitability.
 

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