Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

[Mike1976]

The Chief of Staff, assessing the situation with the ceasefire coming into effect: "Despite the phenomenal achievement - we must stay with our feet on the ground. Many challenges lie ahead of us. We must remain focused, there is no time to rest on our laurels"

Chief of Staff, Maj. Gen. Eyal Zamir held a situation assessment today with members of the General Staff Forum, after the ceasefire with Iran came into effect.

From the Chief of Staff's statement: "We are after a significant chapter that has ended, but the campaign against Iran is not over. We are moving on to a new chapter that is based on the achievements achieved in the current campaign. We have set back Iran's nuclear project by years, as well as its missile project. The IDF acted at its best - the Intelligence and Security Directorate brought about unprecedented intelligence achievements. The Air Force pilots, who operated heroically under risk, thousands of kilometers from the country's territory, attacked and destroyed targets. The IDF's Defense Intelligence Agency and the ICT units, with their unique operational capabilities, acted to protect the home front. The Home Front Command forces acted resourcefully to save lives, and all of this under the direction of the Operations Division. Each of the commands, divisions, and branches contributed to the success of the operation - whether by directly touching on the operation in Iran, or by strongly defending it in its sector.
*Despite the phenomenal achievement - we must stay grounded. Many challenges lie ahead. We must remain focused, there is no time to rest on our laurels.*
*Now the focus returns to Gaza - to return the hostages and topple the Hamas regime*.
I am proud to be in command of the organization at this time.

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[Fluff]

There also is the fact the popular protests against the regime receive very little to no support from outside.

The West isn't backing these movements, they barely talk about them or engage in meaningful process to further the cause.

Each and every time protests take place, they get repressed. The regime cracks down on them, arrest people en masse, kill them or have them disappear.
Same goes with everything related to women's rights, gay rights and such... usually the West takes great interest in these things. But with Iran? Nope, nothing. A few timid mumbles of indignation, one or two editorials published in some newspaper, and that's it; "we did our part".

I'd think 'the west' would steer clear, and after Syria who would beleive us?

israel though, I'd think they have weapons inside Iran, ready to distribute, if enough people protested.

Probably looking for a trigger event, which would probably be pretty messy.

 

[Fluff]

We will be back here in five years.

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Almost certainly, unless the iranian taxpayers ask where their billions went....

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[Mike1976]

Changes to the Home Front Command's Defense Policy

Following a situation assessment and approval by Defense Minister Yisrael Katz, it was decided that starting today (Tuesday) at 8:00 PM, the Home Front Command's defense guidelines will be updated.

As part of the changes, all regions of the country will move to a full activity level without restrictions.

*Gaza-envelope guidance area - subject to Southern Command guidelines.

The policy is in effect from Tuesday, June 24, 2025, at 8:00 PM until Thursday, June 26, 2025, at 8:00 PM.

You should continue to follow the guidelines published by the Home Front Command through official distribution channels.
The full guidelines are updated on the National Emergency Portal and the Home Front Command app

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[Chazman]

As many of us do, I follow many "pro-Ukraine" accounts. Many of their responses to the Fordow strike and cease-fire are illuminating. "Trump is an effing idiot", "No damage", Thanks Trump for helping the Ayatollah". It makes me wonder if these are real accounts or if they are Russian or CCP bots. Pretty strange responses from them. Be careful who you follow. They may not be who you think they are.

Regarding Fordow and the perceived lack of damage on the before and after pics. An analyst had something interesting to say. He said the "afters" show a lot blue-gray coloring on the area. That is reinforced concrete blown through the entrance holes, indicating the the concrete ceiling was penetrated and the facility was destroyed or severely damaged.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I'd think 'the west' would steer clear, and after Syria who would beleive us?

israel though, I'd think they have weapons inside Iran, ready to distribute, if enough people protested.

Probably looking for a trigger event, which would probably be pretty messy.

I remember there were talks, theories and scenarios about partitioning Syria and even Iran.

Though it sounds like a huge and precarious enterprise, perhaps it could lead to a way to solve, or at least try to, the issues created post WW1.

Israel has lots of support, all things considered, and seems to have relatively good contacts with a number of minorities. To go back to Syria, the fall of Assad was the perfect time for either a new moderate and progressive government (Jolani claims to be that guy, but is he really? we will see I guess) or a redistribution, balkanisation, of the country. So far Syria seems to be going for the first option. So far.
But contrary to Iran, Syria was already divided by years of civil war, so a good chunk of the work was already done.

Iran however still is "united" to some extent and the Mullahs still retain a significant amount of power and influence on the population.
Another main difference is the kind of power being involved. Assad's power wasn't political, it was dictatorial, autocratic and generational; in itself Assad's power was based on nothing.
Iran however is based on religion, and religious power is significantly harder to break than anything else. Even under the most repressive, backward, "neandertalesque", religious regime you will have compliant and obedient followers. As if religious oppression was preferable to any other.

What would be the trigger then... not sure removing the mullahs would be the way to go. Or at least, I am not sure that would lead to productive results.

Creating a civil war by funneling weapons and having underground resistance groups might not be the way to go either. The goal is to keep the country united, not have people mounted against one another and forced to kill one another to, potentially, reach that outcome.

Perhaps the other regional Arab countries should step up and get involved more regarding Iran. After all, Iran is an actual threat to these countries as well.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

As many of us do, I follow many "pro-Ukraine" accounts. Many of their responses to the Fordow strike and cease-fire are illuminating. "Trump is an effing idiot", "No damage", Thanks Trump for helping the Ayatollah". It makes me wonder if these are real accounts or if they are Russian or CCP bots. Pretty strange responses from them. Be careful who you follow. They may not be who you think they are.

Regarding Fordow and the perceived lack of damage on the before and after pics. An analyst had something interesting to say. He said the "afters" show a lot blue-gray coloring on the area. That is reinforced concrete blown through the entrance holes, indicating the the concrete ceiling was penetrated and the facility was destroyed or severely damaged.

No, most of them are genuine people, most of whom don't live in Ukraine. Expats who built their life around the war in Ukraine.
Some claim to be Ukrainians, but aren't.
Some claim to be veterans, but aren't.
There is an awful lot of grifters among them.

They are pissed at Trump because Trump isn't giving in to each and every demands made by Zelensky.
They are pissed at Trump because he and his VP were mean to Zelensky last time he came to the WH.
They are pissed at Trump because they consider the US isn't giving enough. And to them, the help provided by the US to Israel should have been provided to Ukraine as well.

They envy the Israel's relationship with the US and it pisses them Ukraine cannot claim the same. Because they don't understand the kind of relationship the US and Israel have, neither do they understand Ukraine will never have that kind of relationship Israel has with the US.

 

[Fluff]

I remember there were talks, theories and scenarios about partitioning Syria and even Iran.

Though it sounds like a huge and precarious enterprise, perhaps it could lead to a way to solve, or at least try to, the issues created post WW1.

Israel has lots of support, all things considered, and seems to have relatively good contacts with a number of minorities. To go back to Syria, the fall of Assad was the perfect time for either a new moderate and progressive government (Jolani claims to be that guy, but is he really? we will see I guess) or a redistribution, balkanisation, of the country. So far Syria seems to be going for the first option. So far.
But contrary to Iran, Syria was already divided by years of civil war, so a good chunk of the work was already done.

Iran however still is "united" to some extent and the Mullahs still retain a significant amount of power and influence on the population.
Another main difference is the kind of power being involved. Assad's power wasn't political, it was dictatorial, autocratic and generational; in itself Assad's power was based on nothing.
Iran however is based on religion, and religious power is significantly harder to break than anything else. Even under the most repressive, backward, "neandertalesque", religious regime you will have compliant and obedient followers. As if religious oppression was preferable to any other.

What would be the trigger then... not sure removing the mullahs would be the way to go. Or at least, I am not sure that would lead to productive results.

Creating a civil war by funneling weapons and having underground resistance groups might not be the way to go either. The goal is to keep the country united, not have people mounted against one another and forced to kill one another to, potentially, reach that outcome.

Perhaps the other regional Arab countries should step up and get involved more regarding Iran. After all, Iran is an actual threat to these countries as well.

what if Khamenei accidentally passed, like from concrete compression, or similar.

 

[HorniePonie]

As many of us do, I follow many "pro-Ukraine" accounts. Many of their responses to the Fordow strike and cease-fire are illuminating. "Trump is an effing idiot", "No damage", Thanks Trump for helping the Ayatollah". It makes me wonder if these are real accounts or if they are Russian or CCP bots. Pretty strange responses from them. Be careful who you follow. They may not be who you think they are.

Regarding Fordow and the perceived lack of damage on the before and after pics. An analyst had something interesting to say. He said the "afters" show a lot blue-gray coloring on the area. That is reinforced concrete blown through the entrance holes, indicating the the concrete ceiling was penetrated and the facility was destroyed or severely damaged.

I don't know what some people were expecting to see. The whole mountain upside down? I bet it's one heck of a mess down there.

 

[Fluff]

As many of us do, I follow many "pro-Ukraine" accounts. Many of their responses to the Fordow strike and cease-fire are illuminating. "Trump is an effing idiot", "No damage", Thanks Trump for helping the Ayatollah". It makes me wonder if these are real accounts or if they are Russian or CCP bots. Pretty strange responses from them. Be careful who you follow. They may not be who you think they are.

Regarding Fordow and the perceived lack of damage on the before and after pics. An analyst had something interesting to say. He said the "afters" show a lot blue-gray coloring on the area. That is reinforced concrete blown through the entrance holes, indicating the the concrete ceiling was penetrated and the facility was destroyed or severely damaged.

bit OT, but in the Silo books, they were designed to be collapsed, the floors would fall on each other - killing everyone inside.

 

[Fluff]

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if legit, clearly written in El Trumpo font.

 

[Chazman]

No, most of them are genuine people, most of whom don't live in Ukraine. Expats who built their life around the war in Ukraine.
Some claim to be Ukrainians, but aren't.
Some claim to be veterans, but aren't.
There is an awful lot of grifters among them.

They are pissed at Trump because Trump isn't giving in to each and every demands made by Zelensky.
They are pissed at Trump because he and his VP were mean to Zelensky last time he came to the WH.
They are pissed at Trump because they consider the US isn't giving enough. And to them, the help provided by the US to Israel should have been provided to Ukraine as well.

They envy the Israel's relationship with the US and it pisses them Ukraine cannot claim the same. Because they don't understand the kind of relationship the US and Israel have, neither do they understand Ukraine will never have that kind of relationship Israel has with the US.

At the very least, some of these folks are brain dead idiots. There is one guy I've been following who claims to be American, a Gulf War veteran and lives in Texas. I'm sure some of you guys following too. Some of his/her posts reposts are increasingly so stupid. I wonder if he's real.