Kılıç class fast attack craft TCG Kılıç P330 (HızlıGüçlüKeskin) moored to a buoy near Palamutbükü, Oct 22, 2020
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Gendarmerie public order personnel holding the entrances and exits of a quarantined village. In hes hands Turkish made SAR-109T submachine gun

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The SAR 109T is a small light-weight blowback 9×19 mm submachine gun manufactured by Sarsılmaz based small arms manufacturer, it was released in 2014.
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Gendarmerie Special Public Order Command ( JÖAK ) personal with Sarsılmaz SAR109T submachine gun

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Turkish Gendarmerie & coast guard exercises with SAR109T in the Aegean Sea (Credit @aybarsbtr archive)
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Turkish Navy EOD (SAS) during CBRN exercise with Sarsılmaz SAR-190T submachine gun. (Credit @sas_commando on instagram)
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Turkish Marine during VBSS training with Sarsılmaz SAR-190T submachine gun in Aegean Sea.

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Turkish Marine with Sarsılmaz SAR-190T.
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Turkish Coast Guard Special Operations SÖH with Sarsılmaz SAR-190T submachine gun

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Few photo's of Turkey's pre-second world war preparations.
I'm thinking to share photo's of Turkish army during the second world war but I want to explain the situation before posting. For maybe little understandability about the situation before 40s in Turkey♥.

1937 Turkish army Thrace (Bulgarian -Greek border area) Maneuvers
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↓↓↓ Second from left Atatürk (1st President of Turkey & first Marshal (Turkish Army) ), far right İsmet İnönü (1st Prime Minister of Turkey & Chief of Staff of the Army a Turkish war of indepence) They wear Medal of Independence (Turkey) ↓↓↓
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Far right Fevzi Çakmak from 1920s to the end of second world war the commander of the armed forces second and last marshal of Turkey ↓↓

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Fevzi Çakmak was the second most important man in the Turkish War of Independence. He himself planned the military action plans. When Ataturk become president when war was over, çakmak become second marshall of Turkey.↓↓↓

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Why this exercises/maneuvers was done in 1937?

First of all, the fascist movement led by Benito Mussolini in Italy and then the aggressive armament of the Nazis led by Adolf Hitler in Germany after taking power and their pursuit of land division in the European continent was considered as the harbinger of an approaching war. Referring to this issue in some of their conversations, Turkish state officials, especially Atatürk, decide to organize military exercises both to prepare the armed forces for a military confrontation and to intimidate possible threats.

Apart from these, Mussolini was making declarations to found New Rome and started to pile up soldiers on the Dodecanese Islands ( see below ) Which is less than 1 mile near Turkish border.

For those who don't know, Dodecanese Islands seized in 1912 in Italo-Turkish War by Italy, island between Greece and Turkey. The most famous island are the Rhodos & Kos islands. A total of 12 majors islands and dozens of islets started to be garrisoned with Italian brigades.

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For this reason, investments in the army have increased excessively. Tanks from the Soviets
was brought, planes from the British were purchased, Dozens of pilots were sent to England & France for pilot training, thousands of vickers machine guns purchased for ships, mines to naval equipment from England and France, anti-aircraft devices, new railways started to be built. Even equipment bought from the Germans, for example a few U boats.

The most famous among the preparations was ''Çakmak Hattı'' . Çakmak Line construction started urgently. Its kinda Turkish maginot line. It took its name from Fevzi Çakmak the Turkish military leader of the period.
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Çakmak Line consisted of two main in total of 4 lines. Excluding the fortifications in Galipoli ( during the first world war ) campaign left over. The straits were demilitarized until the mid 1930s. Bosporus (Istanbul) and the Dardanelles ( Galipoli ) Straits began to be reclaimed again in the mid-1930s. Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Turkish Straits again after WWI(the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits) and regulates the transit of naval warships.

Signed on 20 July 1936 at the Montreux Palace in Switzerland.
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That's why defenses from the 1920's survived until mid 1930s. but the province called ''thrace'' between border of Greece & Bulgaria to Istanbul was undefended, unfortified and mostly flat. That's why defensive lines are being build here. What i mean about lines bunkers, mg nest, artillery batteries & trenches.

The main vein of the line consisted of bunkers reaching from the north of Istanbul from the black sea coast to the Greek border.
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Other minor lines of defense are at South Bulgaria & where the location of rivers and lakes are combined in the west of Istanbul

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and the last line apart from these there were fortifications built/left during the Balkan wars also outsite of çatalca middle of Thrace. Fortifications have been repaired here. In this way, the çakmak line consists of 4 parts.

Turkey has started the construction of this line of defense as a precaution.Even today it is possible to see hundreds of bunkers outside of Istanbul.
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Also Turkey start seeking new allies in the region.

First of all The Balkan Pact, or Balkan Entente, was a treaty signed by Greece, Turkey, Romania and Yugoslavia mid 1930s in Athens, aimed at maintaining the geopolitical status quo in the region following World War I. To present a united front against Bulgarian designs on their territories, the signatories agreed to suspend all disputed territorial claims against each other and their immediate neighbors which followed in the aftermath of the war and a rise in various regional ethnic minority tensions. Other nations in the region that had been involved in related diplomacy refused to sign the document, including Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary and the Soviet Union. The pact became effective on the day that it was signed. It was registered in the League of Nations Treaty Series on 1 October 1934. The Balkan Pact helped to ensure peace between the signatory nations.
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Ankara, 27 February 1938: Balkan Pact summit in Ankara. From left: Kemal Atatürk of Turkey, Milan Stojadinović of Yugoslavia, Ioannis Metaxas of Greece, and Nicolae Petrescu-Comnen of Romania.
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Except this pact, Turkey establish a new alliance with eastern neighbors. Called Saadabad Pact was a non-aggression pact signed by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan on July 8, 1937 and lasted for five years. In this way countries would concentrate their armies in areas where possible attack can came & countries in Saadabad pact provide military aid when needed.
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Turkey made agreements with the neighbors & began to make preparations for potential Italian war. 90% of the army withdrew to west. Fortifications started to be built.

I will share the pre ww2 equipment of the Turkish army and military photo's on the eve of the war.♥
 
Few photo's of Turkey's pre-second world war preparations.
I'm thinking to share photo's of Turkish army during the second world war but I want to explain the situation before posting. For maybe little understandability about the situation before 40s in Turkey♥.

1937 Turkish army Thrace (Bulgarian -Greek border area) Maneuvers
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↓↓↓ Second from left Atatürk (1st President of Turkey & first Marshal (Turkish Army) ), far right İsmet İnönü (1st Prime Minister of Turkey & Chief of Staff of the Army a Turkish war of indepence) They wear Medal of Independence (Turkey) ↓↓↓
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Far right Fevzi Çakmak from 1920s to the end of second world war the commander of the armed forces second and last marshal of Turkey ↓↓

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Fevzi Çakmak was the second most important man in the Turkish War of Independence. He himself planned the military action plans. When Ataturk become president when war was over, çakmak become second marshall of Turkey.↓↓↓

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Why this exercises/maneuvers was done in 1937?

First of all, the fascist movement led by Benito Mussolini in Italy and then the aggressive armament of the Nazis led by Adolf Hitler in Germany after taking power and their pursuit of land division in the European continent was considered as the harbinger of an approaching war. Referring to this issue in some of their conversations, Turkish state officials, especially Atatürk, decide to organize military exercises both to prepare the armed forces for a military confrontation and to intimidate possible threats.

Apart from these, Mussolini was making declarations to found New Rome and started to pile up soldiers on the Dodecanese Islands ( see below ) Which is less than 1 mile near Turkish border.

For those who don't know, Dodecanese Islands seized in 1912 in Italo-Turkish War by Italy, island between Greece and Turkey. The most famous island are the Rhodos & Kos islands. A total of 12 majors islands and dozens of islets started to be garrisoned with Italian brigades.

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For this reason, investments in the army have increased excessively. Tanks from the Soviets
was brought, planes from the British were purchased, Dozens of pilots were sent to England & France for pilot training, thousands of vickers machine guns purchased for ships, mines to naval equipment from England and France, anti-aircraft devices, new railways started to be built. Even equipment bought from the Germans, for example a few U boats.

The most famous among the preparations was ''Çakmak Hattı'' . Çakmak Line construction started urgently. Its kinda Turkish maginot line. It took its name from Fevzi Çakmak the Turkish military leader of the period.
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Çakmak Line consisted of two main in total of 4 lines. Excluding the fortifications in Galipoli ( during the first world war ) campaign left over. The straits were demilitarized until the mid 1930s. Bosporus (Istanbul) and the Dardanelles ( Galipoli ) Straits began to be reclaimed again in the mid-1930s. Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Turkish Straits again after WWI(the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits) and regulates the transit of naval warships.

Signed on 20 July 1936 at the Montreux Palace in Switzerland.
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That's why defenses from the 1920's survived until mid 1930s. but the province called ''thrace'' between border of Greece & Bulgaria to Istanbul was undefended, unfortified and mostly flat. That's why defensive lines are being build here. What i mean about lines bunkers, mg nest, artillery batteries & trenches.

The main vein of the line consisted of bunkers reaching from the north of Istanbul from the black sea coast to the Greek border.
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Other minor lines of defense are at South Bulgaria & where the location of rivers and lakes are combined in the west of Istanbul

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and the last line apart from these there were fortifications built/left during the Balkan wars also outsite of çatalca middle of Thrace. Fortifications have been repaired here. In this way, the çakmak line consists of 4 parts.

Turkey has started the construction of this line of defense as a precaution.Even today it is possible to see hundreds of bunkers outside of Istanbul.
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Also Turkey start seeking new allies in the region.

First of all The Balkan Pact, or Balkan Entente, was a treaty signed by Greece, Turkey, Romania and Yugoslavia mid 1930s in Athens, aimed at maintaining the geopolitical status quo in the region following World War I. To present a united front against Bulgarian designs on their territories, the signatories agreed to suspend all disputed territorial claims against each other and their immediate neighbors which followed in the aftermath of the war and a rise in various regional ethnic minority tensions. Other nations in the region that had been involved in related diplomacy refused to sign the document, including Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary and the Soviet Union. The pact became effective on the day that it was signed. It was registered in the League of Nations Treaty Series on 1 October 1934. The Balkan Pact helped to ensure peace between the signatory nations.
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Ankara, 27 February 1938: Balkan Pact summit in Ankara. From left: Kemal Atatürk of Turkey, Milan Stojadinović of Yugoslavia, Ioannis Metaxas of Greece, and Nicolae Petrescu-Comnen of Romania.
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Except this pact, Turkey establish a new alliance with eastern neighbors. Called Saadabad Pact was a non-aggression pact signed by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan on July 8, 1937 and lasted for five years. In this way countries would concentrate their armies in areas where possible attack can came & countries in Saadabad pact provide military aid when needed.
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Turkey made agreements with the neighbors & began to make preparations for potential Italian war. 90% of the army withdrew to west. Fortifications started to be built.

I will share the pre ww2 equipment of the Turkish army and military photo's on the eve of the war.♥
Great stuff mate but can I suggest starting a dedicated thread for this history instead of this thread which should remain a photo thread of recent Turkish military images ;)
 
Great stuff mate but can I suggest starting a dedicated thread for this history instead of this thread which should remain a photo thread of recent Turkish military images ;)



It is unacceptable to have a member with the nickname of Cemal Pasha who was one of the three ''Pashas'' who were the masterminds of the pogroms vs the Greek and Armenians. This kind of mentality is still present among many Turks. Understandably, the owners of the forum don't have the same sensitivity towards these issue, but some of us do so we can't simply pretend that everything is ok and keep participating.

Goodbye.



 
It is unacceptable to have a member with the nickname of Cemal Pasha who was one of the three ''Pashas'' who were the masterminds of the pogroms vs the Greek and Armenians. This kind of mentality is still present among many Turks. Understandably, the owners of the forum don't have the same sensitivity towards these issue, but some of us do so we can't simply pretend that everything is ok and keep participating.

Goodbye.





Cemal Pasha, one of the three Pashas ruling the Ottoman triumvirate during the First World War, was nicknamed 'Pasha of Armenia' as he did not only built various orphanages for Ottoman-Armenian children, changed various relocation orders, tried whenever possible to deliver extra provisions for relocated civilians (as long as it did not hamper the war effort) and made sure that hundreds of criminals that had killed said civilians were hanged.

Well, don't take my word for it: Armenian historian Vahakn Dadrian even agrees with this perspective (see his book: 'Key elements in the Turkish denial' pg. 54) that Cemal attempted to minimize Armenian losses while blaming the other Ottoman officials for the Armenian casualties and his deeds that got him this nickname aren't only featured in the book 'the Armenian massacres in Ottoman Turkey' but also in Yair Auron's book Zionism and the Armenian genocide (pg. 377) and Beylerian's Les Grandes puissances, l'Empire Ottoman (pg. 287).

And also like you said Cemal Pasha was a very important figure during the Ottman Empire's last decades and WWI onwards along with Enver and Talat Pashas who are still cirtisized by some people due to their false actions in that timeline even in Turkey. But it's a fact taht they are as patriots who were mainly aiming to regain their empire to it's good-old glory and therefore they are respected even by their major critics.

So I believe you have no right to say that the members using these names should be banned. If you are so annoyed by it the best solution for you to not visit this page. We have a good going order in here which is based on mutual respect and understanding, so my advice to you is not to harass it with this type of actions.
 
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And also like you said Cemal Pasha was a very important figure during the Ottman Empire's last decades and WWI onwards along with Enver and Talat Pashas who are still cirtisized by some people due to their false actions in that timeline even in Turkey. But it's a fact taht they are as patriots who were mainly aiming to regain their empire to it's good-old glory and therefore they are respected even by their major critics.

So I believe you have no right to say that the members using these names should be banned. If you are so annoyed by it the best solution for you to not visit this page. We have a good going order in here which is based on mutual respect and understanding, so my advice to you is not to harass it with this type of actions.


Where exactly i said that he should be banned? We live in Greece mate, we don't have a ''ban'' mentality like some of our neighbors do.

I propose using another nickname, as to the rest for the people who consider the Pashas as ''patriots'' i am sure that this can be said for Nazis and others. Some people hold in high regard such personas.

Your posting just confirms my belief that you are still have this kind of mentality. Frankly i am not surprised, other nations don't know you the way we do, but they are catching up lately.

As for the mutual respect and understanding, it's for people who believe in basic humanitarian values. You are still in 1910, not only mentally but as a foreign policy dogma, officially.
 
Where exactly i said that he should be banned? We live in Greece mate, we don't have a ''ban'' mentality like some of our neighbors do.

I propose using another nickname, as to the rest for the people who consider the Pashas as ''patriots'' i am sure that this can be said for Nazis and others. Some people hold in high regard such personas.

Your posting just confirms my belief that you are still have this kind of mentality. Frankly i am not surprised, other nations don't know you the way we do, but they are catching up lately.

As for the mutual respect and understanding, it's for people who believe in basic humanitarian values. You are still in 1910, not only mentally but as a foreign policy dogma, officially.

Just look at your post and find me exaclty were you proposed him "to use another nickname". Sorry but that's what I got from your post. Maybe ypu sould be more clear next time.

Well, sorry but you skipped the half of my post and jump into your own conclusions since you are so biased by your own perspective. When I write something I support my point of view with factual historic information just as I did with my post below. That you just ignored and claim you know our history well. I sincerely advise you to do some brainwork and be more ecletic before making emotional statements.

And also Pasha is a military rank in Turkey which is equivelant of General. It was also used to express of the high social and political statue of a person in Ottoman era. Just like "Lordship" status used in Great Britain. So your affiliation it with Nazizim is just purely nonsense.

Let me state myself more clearly. If a member of this forum would want to take any Greek commander or leader who participated the invasion of Western Anatolia during their Asia Minor campaign of 1919-22 and documented massacring civilian Turkish population living these areas I would not mind it bcs they were the figures respected by another nation and it's a controversial subject . So as you can understand, things are not that black and white.

And lastly according to the segmentation structure of this forum, this is a photo topic and I am very determined to make it away from political discussion and nonsense. Speak with these stuff anywhere but away from this topic. There are . As I am not making my political statemants in any other nation's topic because I simply have respect the people working to share images unlike you.
 
Let me state myself more clearly. If a member of this forum would want to take any Greek commander or leader who participated the invasion of Western Anatolia during their Asia Minor campaign of 1919-22 and documented massacring civilian Turkish population living these areas

You are hallucinating mate. When the Greek army took command in Asia Minor the only people who were executed were criminal justice offenders, many Greeks also not only Turks. Most of them found an opportunity to set old scores during the landing of the Greek forces, all were punished despite being Greeks or Turks. You can check the details to the memoirs of George Horton, the US consul in Smyrna.

It's a usual path, a system that exterminated millions of people to invent fictitious ''massacres'' of its own people in order to get historical excuses.
Fortunately , there were other people there, American missionaries and others who wrote what happened.


Poetry is your friend, the first verse of Victor Hugo's poem sums it all:

The Turks have been here. All is bleak, in ruin.
Les Turcs ont passé là. Tout est ruine et deuil.
 
You are hallucinating mate. When the Greek army took command in Asia Minor the only people who were executed were criminal justice offenders, many Greeks also not only Turks. Most of them found an opportunity to set old scores during the landing of the Greek forces, all were punished despite being Greeks or Turks. You can check the details to the memoirs of George Horton, the US consul in Smyrna.

It's a usual path, a system that exterminated millions of people to invent fictitious ''massacres'' of its own people in order to get historical excuses.
Fortunately , there were other people there, American missionaries and others who wrote what happened.


Poetry is your friend, the first verse of Victor Hugo's poem sums it all:

The Turks have been here. All is bleak, in ruin.
Les Turcs ont passé là. Tout est ruine et deuil.
I have no disrespect for the Greeks, Cemal pasa was the first Minister of the Navy. My purpose of using this nickname of navy pasha ( navy general) is for supporting to re establishing Turkish navy ministry or Sea ministry. A ministry did not get the re-establishment at the start of new republic of Turkey after the first world war & war of independence. That's why I'm using this name.To give an example for this like Karl donitz he was one of famous Navy commanders of history if someone use the name of Donitz or Rommel in this platfrom doesnt make him pro nazi dude its just a famous military figure. Your concerns seem tragicomic to me my goal is to share photos & military stuff. You can see me with this nickname on the internet on similar kind of platforms.
No need to be misunderstood. It doesn't sincire to judge people by their nicknames. As for the Greek atrocities happend in invasion back in 1920 I am thinking of sharing the tortures made against the Turks with photographs and documents, but what would this have to do with this platform?

With love and respect
 
I have no disrespect for the Greeks, Cemal pasa was the first Minister of the Navy. My purpose of using this nickname of navy pasha ( navy general) is for supporting to re establishing Turkish navy ministry or Sea ministry. A ministry did not get the re-establishment at the start of new republic of Turkey after the first world war & war of independence. That's why I'm using this name.To give an example for this like Karl donitz he was one of famous Navy commanders of history if someone use the name of Donitz or Rommel in this platfrom doesnt make him pro nazi dude its just a famous military figure. Your concerns seem tragicomic to me my goal is to share photos & military stuff. You can see me with this nickname on the internet on similar kind of platforms.
No need to be misunderstood. It doesn't sincire to judge people by their nicknames. As for the Greek atrocities happend in invasion back in 1920 I am thinking of sharing the tortures made against the Turks with photographs and documents, but what would this have to do with this platform?

With love and respect


Mate, please open a new thread and post the Greek ''atrocities'' in Asia Minor... we are in a lock down here due to the covid 19, every entertainment is most welcomed. Anyway i will not carry this on, i made my point. Donitz was a convicted war criminal, it's one thing to study him as a military commander, totally different thing to adopt his image. But as i wrote to another thread, you declared war on Germany in February 1945, until then you were paid in gold (whose gold was that?) by the Nazis for selling essential elements for military armament. Your love and admiration about German military figures is because they helped you organised the extermination of the Christian population in 1910-, Liman Von Sanders was your commander and adviser.

As to the ''love and respect'', save it for the non Greeks, we don't fall to this oriental theatrical gestures who tap you on the back and they stab you when you turn the other way.

P.S. My apologies to the mods and other members for the heated exchange, perhaps if you had the family history i have, with grandmothers and great grandmothers who were living in the mountains for 4 years escaping the ''Pashas'' hordes before fleeing to Greek territory after they saw their husbands beheaded because they didn't tell the Turks where they hid their valuables you would also be a little worked up too.
 

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