Museum Why are US Navy ships so rusty lately?

[Chazman]

Interesting discussion on CDR Salamander. But it sounds like a combination of not letting sailors maintain their own ships due to private contractors and the switch to enviro-friendly paint.

We Need a Material Condition Standdown

BEHOLD THE GREATEST NAVY IN THE WORLD VISITS THE STRONGEST NATION IN CONTINENTAL EUROPE! What in hell are we doing? Via NavySite.de...

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[BravoZulu]

It's very much the same here in Australia @Chazman , only sailors that have completed a certificate course at onshore vocational college or registered training organisation are allowed to do any ships husbandry tasks. Crazy to think that such roadblocks are in place when not so many years ago it was simply done as a matter of course to look after your home

 

[Junglejim]

You know which Navy has well painted ships... the Philippine Navy. it is also the weakest in Asia. Who cares if the US Navy is not into aesthetic "sorry if e forgot to paint our ships, we were too busy dominating the 7 seas and what not"

 

[Jaybe]

Busy ships are always rusty. Seems they just dropped the long practice to deliberately push only pretty images.

 

[Chazman]

USN ships have ALWAYS been busy, but they weren't rust buckets like they have been recently.

 

[Chazman]

The inside joke on CDR Sal is that there is too much time and energy devoted to politically correct issues like "diversity training" to have time to maintain your ship.

 

[bdpopeye]

US Navy ships have been busy for decades. They are no more rusty than years gone by. Just my opinion.

Behold. USS Oriskany 1972 in drydock in Yokosuka Japan under going emergency repairs;



This picture of the Oriskany in dry dock were taken in Yokosuka, Japan during 1972–1973 West Pac. During that West Pac Cruise Oriskany had to go into dry dock twice in 1972 because she dropped a screw along with several feet of propeller shaft into the Gulf of Tonkin on two separate occasions."Bob Canchola, BT3, USS Oriskany 1971–1973





USS Saratoga(CVA 60) in Mayport FL FEB 1973. Photo by popeye taken from USS John F Kennedy(CVA 67)

Each one of us is entitled to his/her own opinion.

 

[Chazman]

Even the Sinkex Spruances had less rust than currently operational ships.

USS Fife during sinkex.

USS Gravely last June, commissioned in 2010

 

[bdpopeye]

This is the photo that cause the controversy about rust.



That is the USS Gravely in May 2019 after operating in the Baltic Sea for three months. Still no excuse to look like that..really. Very embarrassing.

US Navy ships spend a lot of time at sea. Being at sea for any extended period of time causes corrosion...even sitting in a sea port for extended period cause corrosion. That is a fact. Not all or even 10% of US Navy ships are rust buckets....That's ok, think what you all want to.



Here's a photos of Gravely about one month before the rust photo was taken.

GDYNIA Poland(Apr. 22, 2019) Standing NATO Maritime Group One (SNMG1) flagship, USS Gravely and Turkish frigate TCG Gokova pierside during port visit to Gdynia, Poland. SNMG1 is underway on a regularly scheduled deployment to conduct operations and provide a continuous maritime capability for NATO in the northern Atlantic. (U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Lyndsi Gutierrez/Released)

Here's a photo of Gravely short after the rust photo was taken.

USS Gravely (DDG 107) participates in a photo exercise with the German navy while transiting the Baltic Sea. by Official U.S. Navy Page, on Flickr

BALTIC SEA (May 30, 2019) The guided-missile destroyer USS Gravely (DDG 107) participates in a photo exercise with the German navy while transiting the Baltic Sea. Gravely is underway on a scheduled deployment as the flagship of Standing NATO Maritime Group 1 to conduct maritime operations and provide a continuous maritime capability for NATO in the northern Atlantic. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Mark Andrew Hays/Released)

Recent photos of the US Navy.

USS Carney (DDG 64) by Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet, on Flickr

FASLANE, Scotland (May 6, 2019) - Boatswain’s Mate Seaman Timothy Mallon, from Philadelphia, assigned to the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Carney (DDG 64) throws a heaving line across to the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Roosevelt (DDG 80) while mooring in Faslane, Scotland, May 6, 2019. Carney, forward-deployed to Rota, Spain, is on its sixth patrol in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations in support of regional allies and partners as well as U.S. national security interests in Europe and Africa. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Fred Gray IV/Released)

190506-N-GK137-0020 by Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet, on Flickr

The dry cargo and ammunition ship USNS Charles Drew (T-AKE 10) conducts a replenishment-at-sea with the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) in the Atlantic Ocean, May 5, 2019. John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group (JCSCSG) is deployed in support of maritime security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Jordan Ripley)

190506-N-NI298-096 by U.S. Pacific Fleet, on Flickr

SINGAPORE (May 6, 2019) A line handler awaits the arrival of USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19) as the the U.S. 7th Fleet flagship approaches the pier in Singapore for a scheduled port visit. During the visit, Blue Ridge Sailors will have the opportunity to experience local culture, host military-to-military engagements and build relationships through music and public service activities. Blue Ridge is the oldest operational ship in the Navy and, as 7th Fleet command ship, actively works to foster relationships with allies and partners in the Indo-Pacific Region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Tristin Barth)

USS Carney (DDG 64) by Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet, on Flickr

FASLANE, Scotland (May 7, 2019) - The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Roosevelt (DDG 80) and USS Carney (DDG 64) are moored abreast in Faslane, Scotland, May 7, 2019. Carney, forward-deployed to Rota, Spain, is on its sixth patrol in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations in support of regional allies and partners as well as U.S. national security interests in Europe and Africa. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Fred Gray IV/Released)



MEDITERRANEAN SEA (May 8, 2019) The fast combat support ship USNS Arctic (T-AOE 8) pulls alongside the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln to conduct a replenishment-at-sea. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Michael Singley/Released)



SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 8, 2019) -- Guided missile destroyer USS William P. Lawrence (DDG 110) pulls alongside the Lewis and Clark-class dry cargo and ammunition ship USNS Richard E. Byrd (T-AKE 4) during a replenishment-at-sea on May 8. Military Sealift Command fleet replenishment dry cargo and ammunition ships provide support to customers via underway and vertical replenishments. (Photo by David Wyscaver)

 

[Junglejim]

Maybe the USS Gravely is into the shabby chic look

 

[downsizer]

Funny how a handful of photos in this day and age can have such influence.

 

[BCNTM]

This is the photo that cause the controversy about rust.

I used to know the person who developed this paint for the Forth Rail Bridge - makes me wonder why they don't use something like this

bit like epoxy resin - you mix the two parts together and then slap it on quick

Forth Bridge painting 'is coming to an end'

The owners of the Forth Bridge say that work on painting the structure should be completed in December.

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[Chazman]

Update from the Navy Chief of Information.

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[Chazman]

Having trouble posting the pics.....

 

[Chazman]

Here we go.....

 

[Junglejim]

Ok i take what i said back, if that is what a "fresh coat of paint" looks like for the US Navy, then you guys suck at painting... guess you cant be awesome everywhere. If I was the Navy Chief I would have just tweeted "Sorry for not painting our ships, too busy protecting the freeworld and all that"

 

[Chazman]

Ok i take what i said back, if that is what a "fresh coat of paint" looks like for the US Navy, then you guys suck at painting... guess you cant be awesome everywhere. If I was the Navy Chief I would have just tweeted "Sorry for not painting our ships, too busy protecting the freeworld and all that"

That'd be a nice touch.

What's wrong with the paint?

 

[Junglejim]

It was claimed that its a fresh coat of paint, and there's rust already, granted I've seen how metal can rust in plain sight but dang. Actually, there is unit here that is in the same issue with the US Navy. The Philippine Army's vehicles are never parade ready, simply because of the operational tempo.

 

[Chazman]

It was claimed that its a fresh coat of paint, and there's rust already, granted I've seen how metal can rust in plain sight but dang. Actually, there is unit here that is in the same issue with the US Navy. The Philippine Army's vehicles are never parade ready, simply because of the operational tempo.

Yeah, looks like they missed a few spots.

 

[bdpopeye]

It was claimed that its a fresh coat of paint, and there's rust already, granted I've seen how metal can rust in plain sight but dang.

Sea water and sea air is relentless. It is a never ending battle.