Trying to id what period this dog tag / id disc comes from.

[Connaught Ranger]

Trying to id what period this dog tag comes from.

I believe its British as it has CoE (Church of England)

 

[Gaz]

This might be a really stupid question but is Fletcher Plumber a double barrelled name, or is that someone called Fletcher who's job was a plumber?

 

[Connaught Ranger]

This might be a really stupid question but is Fletcher Plumber a double barrelled name, or is that someone called Fletcher who's job was a plumber?

All I have to go off are the pictures at the moment.

 

[Gaz]

Suspect it's Royal Navy - "P/M - Long service, miscellaneous rating from the Portsmouth Port Division, who engaged before the new pay code into use. "

GENUKI: Marine and Naval Ratings Service Numbers, UK and Ireland

Marine and Naval Ratings Service Numbers UK and Ireland genealogy

www.genuki.org.uk

I guess if you can find out when they went from the older coloured tags to metal ones, it'll give you a cut off point for age.

 

[Royal]

We changed to the metal tags in the early 90s, but the RM was well behind the curve on that. That said, I've never seen a metal one with a hanger - they have a drilled hole, top centre. Also, the Blood Gp should be on the front and IIRC from SERE courses it should read CE not CofE.

This might be one made up commercially as a spare - or less likley to replace one that was lost (less likley as the format is wrong). It was a trend/fashion in the post Falklands era (at lest in the RM and Paras) to wear an extra one on your boot laces and/or somewhere on your webbing - presumably in case you were blown into small pieces. That said, I'm not sure that fashion made it across to the RN.

Trade isn't included on dog tags - it would be a bit of a bummer if you were captured and it read Special Forces ninja or civvy murdering Bomber Pilot for example....

 

[colin traveller]

Quote from a FB Group i use ...


Early WWI dog tag? I think its early as the UK switched to the fire and chemical retardant pressed fiber (green and red) ones later in the war early 20s. Might even be a tag made up for a squaddie from home.

"Unofficial ID tags were often made from re-worked coins. They were made in huge numbers by local craftsmen in bazaars across Africa, Asia, India and (especially) the Near and Middle East. They typically had a pre-prepared design, and simply added the name when the customer appeared."

 

[Mike1976]

Blood transfusions were a rarity during WW1 for British forces according to these sources so I don't really expect tags of that era to mention blood group, the army ones certainly do not. Virtually certain it's post WW1. Australia and Canada used round tags like that for far longer than the British who dropped them around 1916 (not sure when they went back to using them again), also the "C of E" wasn't used on Canadian tags post 1955. The way it would have connected to the chain is different, this looks fancier than the standard models. Everything I've ever seen from Empire forces of the world wars just had a simple hole punched into it. Post WW2 private purchase or non-war time production?

Blood Transfusion in the First World War

Blood Transfusion in the First World War, essay by Steven R. Pierce, SMM(ASCP)

www.kumc.edu

Blood transfusion during World War I (1914 - 1918) - PubMed

In august 1914, at the start of World War I, blood transfusion remains quite infrequent, with rough methods, inaccurate indications and poor results. The direct surgical techniques of arteriovenous anastomosis proved ill-adapted to the emergency conditions of war wounds. Indirect techniques with...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[TIGREDELAIRE]

interesting piece of history, very good acquisition, now, I do not explain well why review the previous work of the plaque holder ...

 

[Fish&Chips]

Just came across the following website that dates this type of tag to WWI:

Engraved Silver ID Bracelet World War One History And QAIMNS Example Photograph