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Imia-Kardak Crisis (Greek: Κρίση των Ιμίων, Turkish: Kardak Krizi) was a crisis between Turkey and Greece caused by a Turkish ship named "Figen Atak" getting stuck in Imia/Kardak rocks causing Turkish and Greek forces to have a dispute, leading to a crisis and brought two countries to the brink of war.

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Caused controversy in the media ''who will rescue the ship''.
Figen Akat's captain asked for help from Turkey. This is where the crisis broke out. The Greeks claimed that the cliffs were in their own territorial waters and said "only we can help you". Thus, these insignificant boulders standing in the middle of the sea brought the two countries brink of war..

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In fact, the main issue was not these rocks in the Aegean Sea. The Imia/Kardak rocks meant two countries struggle for domination. If Turkey had agreed to leave these reefs to Greece, the Greeks were able to claim on other pieces of rocks/islets on the Aegean Sea. Turkey's thesis was 'pieces of land remaining after the Ottoman Empire (not included in the lausanne agreement), is not determined by treaties to which belongs to Turkey.

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From the public perspective, the citizens of both countries claimed that these rocks belonged to their own countries. The first movement came from the Greeks, some citizens reached the rock and planted a Greek flag here.
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In response to this move, a number of Turkish journalists landed on the island by helicopter, lowered the Greek flag and planted the Turkish flag.
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PS : Greek flag in the Turkish newspaper '' Hürriyet''s museum now.
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The Greeks responded harshly to this. This time, they came to the rocks with their navy and surrounded them.




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They re-erected their flag, so the Kardak Rocks came under the control of the Greek navy.



The landing on the island by the Greeks created a start crisis in the capital of Turkey. A security meeting was held immediately. The generals were ready to intervene. However, President Süleyman Demirel opposed this. “If a war breaks out for this reason, we cannot explain it to the Turkish nation. We cannot explain it to the world, find another way. '' Prime Minister Tansu Çiller was speaking with certainty, saying, "This soldier will go, that flag will come down". But America's attitude was harsher, they said, "Whoever shoots the first bullet will find us." Thus, Turkey could have dropped the case after the 1974 Operation in Cyprus. A solution had to be found urgently.
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But when the Turkish people took to the streets, Prime Minister Tansu Çiller made his famous saying;
"We can sacrifice life, but not single pebbles"

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On the evening of January 30, 1996, a very important meeting was held in the Ankara with the participation of all force commanders. Just then, Deputy Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs presented a proposal that would not come to anyone's mind. There were two rocks in the area. İnal Batu suggested that the Turkish forces should rise to the empty cliffs opposite the island surrounded by the Greeks. This was a very rational proposition, but capturing the cliffs would still be a very difficult operation. Prime Minister Tansu Çiller took the opinions of the force commanders. The generals said, "If you give orders, we will land soldiers on the island." So the button was pressed and the operation started.



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Commandos first came to the military camp in Bodrum by plane. Here the plan has been revisited. It was necessary to go to the island, passing silently between many Greek ships. If anything goes wrong, the helicopter landing will be done this time as Plan B When the commandos set out in boats, helicopters started flying at the same time. A coast guard ship would dazzle the commandos, surprising the Greek forces. Sat commandos arrived on the island in secret and managed to land.
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After landing there was nobody on the west island. The Turkish flag was planted on the island in a short time. Morning, was dominated by the anger and bewilderment in Greece. A handful of Turkish commandos were able to glide silently between half dozen of Greek ships and face the island encircled by the Greek navies. There was nothing to do anymore. If Greece opened fire on the Turkish commandos, it would start a war and find America against it. Upon these events, the Greek Chief of General Staff resigned. With the intervention of the USA and President Bill Clinton, soldiers from both islands withdrew and the crisis was thus ended.

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The immediate military threat was defused primarily by American officials—in particular, US envoy Richard Holbrooke, working by telephone with officials of both sides during the final hours of the crisis. The Greeks and Turks did not speak directly to one another, but were responsive to Washington's assistance as an informal intermediary. Agreement was given by both sides to the United States to return to the "status quo ante"—i.e., differing views on sovereignty and no military forces on the islets. Greek and Turkish officials provided assurances to the United States that their military forces on and arrayed around the islets would be removed, with the U.S. agreeing to monitor the withdrawal.While US engagement was instrumental in defusing the crisis, the fundamental territorial issue has remained unresolved since that time.
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Unfortunately, this crisis was with loses of life..
On 31 January at 1:40 am Turkish special forces SAT Commandos landed undetected on the west islet escalating the tensions. It was not until 4 hours later when the Greeks noticed this when a Greek helicopter took off at 5:30 am from the Greek frigate Navarino for reconnaissance. During the mission it crashed over the islets (some speculating due to Turkish fire), but this was concealed by both states to prevent further escalation, although three Greek officers on the helicopter were killed: Christodoulos Karathanasis, Panagiotis Vlahakos, and Ektoras Gialopsos.
 
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Someone might ask, what exactly is a ''captured'' Greek flag. Did you ''capture'' it during combat? No, the flag was put there by civilian authorities and your MIT journalist agents landed the chopper, removed it and raised the Turkish flag, which was then removed by Greek troops, however nobody thought that is honorable to show off a ''captured'' civilian Turkish flag and put it to some kind of display.

You forgot to add that one minute before the war starts, with the two navies fully deployed in the Aegean, the one who called then President Clinton to intervene was (according to Clinton's memoir, first edition then it was deducted) the Turkish president Demirel. Wasn't us.

The main discussion here is a historical one. There are older maps American , British, Russian and Turkish who name the islets as Limnia and tag them belonging to Greece.

The source of today's troubles is the Turkish stance during WW2. Turkey remained neutral, until today the ''Evasive neutral'' book is a classic, about how the Turkish diplomacy dealt with the Allies and the Germans, it's known that Churchill offered them the Dodecanese (where the islets belong) if they enter the war on the side of the Allies. Greece took the Dodecanese and the islets as a military compensation from Italy, the Greek Sacred Squadron took the command from the British forces in May 9 1945.

Turkey declared war :) on Germany in February 23, 1945 . During the war Turkey supplied the Nazis with materials essential for military armaments like chromite, when Albert Speer was interrogated by the US said that if in 1943 the Turks stopped the supply, the German military production would cease within months.

The interesting part is how Turkey was paid for these materials, in gold. There was a special bank account, the ''Meller'' account, named from the SS major who was responsible for the dealings.

These are official US department documents, i provide a link from the national archives. I had researched the full docs many years ago and i thing all of them should be still available online.



Now the conslusion:

Greece fought agains Nazis and Fascists, totally ruined, had the second largest population loss percentage after the Soviet Union. Gained Dodecanese and the Imia, (Limnia) islets as a military compensation from Italy in 1946. Turkey accepted this fact from 1946 and it was in the mid 90s when they finally realised that in fact their ''evasive neutral'' policy from WW2, made the Aegean a de facto Greek lake. So they started their current policy of asking the demilitarization of the Greek islands according to the Paris Treaty of 1947, where Turkey was not a signatory member and as a third party can't claim anything.

The Aegean is Greek and will remain Greek, if someone has second thoughts is most welcomed to try. But they know what will happen in a full scale war with Greece, so they try small confined crisis' such as the 1996 one, trying to win some points and then calling the big boss, the US to intervene, two steps forward, one step back, we won one step forward, old Soviet practice.
 
There are also a lot of inaccuracies in the original post, first of all the Greek general staff chief did not resign, he threaten to resign because the newly elected socialist govt did not authorize him to hit the Turkish troops who landed on the islet and generally he asked permission to hit the Turkish naval forces first. The entire approach of the Greek govt was a diplomatic one, having ignored the crisis protocol who demanded the govt officials to be in a special command center together with the military leadership etc. They held their meetings in their offices in the Parliament sending a message for non escalation. Meanwhile the Greek generals worked in a parallel universe, they saw it was their obligation to occupy key positions in the Aegean. The absence of coordination of the politicians and the military was the main mistake.

The Greek navy helicopter didn't crash ''over the islet'' but about 1,5 mile from them. It's still debated if the Turks shot it down, i believe like many others that this was the case.

It's still debated in Greece why the one islet was left without guard, the second had GreeK DYK frogmen as guard. But you can't deny the fact that it was a successful Turkish special forces operation, who had a large impact on the outcome. The weather conditions were horrible, the Turks with the Zodiac weren't visible and they managed to land to the islet. It's still debated if the white color of the motor in their Zodiac was made for recognition purposes or it was amateurism since it was later said in one of the ''Balyoz'' trial in Turkey where one of Turkish frogmen who landed on the islet was a defendant that the entire op happened in a very hasty way without planning and had not fuel for the Zodiac and they used a credit card of one member to full it before the operation in a nearby fuel station.


Also the agreement with Holbrook was that after the disengagement of the two navies, the islets legal status would be returned to the ''status quo ante'', this means they came back to their original status before the crisis. The islets were in the Greek local authorities official gazette, Greek fishermen worked there, while a Greek shepherd from a nearby island, was transferred by boat and laid his sheep tο graze there, it might sound funny but one precondition of the sovereignty is the existence of economic activity on the particular territory.


After this crisis, the political establishment realized that we need some serious hardware to deal with Turkey and they started a very large and expensive armament acquisitions program , new special forces units were established with special ops responsibilities for the Aegean islets, but the most beneficial factor is that after this crisis, there is no Greek govt who could think to back off in a case of a similar crisis.
 
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Someone might ask, what exactly is a ''captured'' Greek flag. Did you ''capture'' it during combat? No, the flag was put there by civilian authorities and your MIT journalist agents landed the chopper, removed it and raised the Turkish flag, which was then removed by Greek troops, however nobody thought that is honorable to show off a ''captured'' civilian Turkish flag and put it to some kind of display.

You forgot to add that one minute before the war starts, with the two navies fully deployed in the Aegean, the one who called then President Clinton to intervene was (according to Clinton's memoir, first edition then it was deducted) the Turkish president Demirel. Wasn't us.

The main discussion here is a historical one. There are older maps American , British, Russian and Turkish who name the islets as Limnia and tag them belonging to Greece.

The source of today's troubles is the Turkish stance during WW2. Turkey remained neutral, until today the ''Evasive neutral'' book is a classic, about how the Turkish diplomacy dealt with the Allies and the Germans, it's known that Churchill offered them the Dodecanese (where the islets belong) if they enter the war on the side of the Allies. Greece took the Dodecanese and the islets as a military compensation from Italy, the Greek Sacred Squadron took the command from the British forces in May 9 1945.

Turkey declared war :) on Germany in February 23, 1945 . During the war Turkey supplied the Nazis with materials essential for military armaments like chromite, when Albert Speer was interrogated by the US said that if in 1943 the Turks stopped the supply, the German military production would cease within months.

The interesting part is how Turkey was paid for these materials, in gold. There was a special bank account, the ''Meller'' account, named from the SS major who was responsible for the dealings.

These are official US department documents, i provide a link from the national archives. I had researched the full docs many years ago and i thing all of them should be still available online.



Now the conslusion:

Greece fought agains Nazis and Fascists, totally ruined, had the second largest population loss percentage after the Soviet Union. Gained Dodecanese and the Imia, (Limnia) islets as a military compensation from Italy in 1946. Turkey accepted this fact from 1946 and it was in the mid 90s when they finally realised that in fact their ''evasive neutral'' policy from WW2, made the Aegean a de facto Greek lake. So they started their current policy of asking the demilitarization of the Greek islands according to the Paris Treaty of 1947, where Turkey was not a signatory member and as a third party can't claim anything.

The Aegean is Greek and will remain Greek, if someone has second thoughts is most welcomed to try. But they know what will happen in a full scale war with Greece, so they try small confined crisis' such as the 1996 one, trying to win some points and then calling the big boss, the US to intervene, two steps forward, one step back, we won one step forward, old Soviet practice.
oil and gas duh , befor that they didn't see why they need those island :)
 
Someone might ask, what exactly is a ''captured'' Greek flag. Did you ''capture'' it during combat? No, the flag was put there by civilian authorities and your MIT journalist agents landed the chopper, removed it and raised the Turkish flag, which was then removed by Greek troops, however nobody thought that is honorable to show off a ''captured'' civilian Turkish flag and put it to some kind of display.

You forgot to add that one minute before the war starts, with the two navies fully deployed in the Aegean, the one who called then President Clinton to intervene was (according to Clinton's memoir, first edition then it was deducted) the Turkish president Demirel. Wasn't us.

The main discussion here is a historical one. There are older maps American , British, Russian and Turkish who name the islets as Limnia and tag them belonging to Greece.

The source of today's troubles is the Turkish stance during WW2. Turkey remained neutral, until today the ''Evasive neutral'' book is a classic, about how the Turkish diplomacy dealt with the Allies and the Germans, it's known that Churchill offered them the Dodecanese (where the islets belong) if they enter the war on the side of the Allies. Greece took the Dodecanese and the islets as a military compensation from Italy, the Greek Sacred Squadron took the command from the British forces in May 9 1945.

Turkey declared war :) on Germany in February 23, 1945 . During the war Turkey supplied the Nazis with materials essential for military armaments like chromite, when Albert Speer was interrogated by the US said that if in 1943 the Turks stopped the supply, the German military production would cease within months.

The interesting part is how Turkey was paid for these materials, in gold. There was a special bank account, the ''Meller'' account, named from the SS major who was responsible for the dealings.

These are official US department documents, i provide a link from the national archives. I had researched the full docs many years ago and i thing all of them should be still available online.



Now the conslusion:

Greece fought agains Nazis and Fascists, totally ruined, had the second largest population loss percentage after the Soviet Union. Gained Dodecanese and the Imia, (Limnia) islets as a military compensation from Italy in 1946. Turkey accepted this fact from 1946 and it was in the mid 90s when they finally realised that in fact their ''evasive neutral'' policy from WW2, made the Aegean a de facto Greek lake. So they started their current policy of asking the demilitarization of the Greek islands according to the Paris Treaty of 1947, where Turkey was not a signatory member and as a third party can't claim anything.

The Aegean is Greek and will remain Greek, if someone has second thoughts is most welcomed to try. But they know what will happen in a full scale war with Greece, so they try small confined crisis' such as the 1996 one, trying to win some points and then calling the big boss, the US to intervene, two steps forward, one step back, we won one step forward, old Soviet practice.
Not at all, civilian flag is showed by newspaper museum. Second flag is putted by Greek commando's. That operation was fiasko for Hellenic Army. Navy SF without thermal cam etc. Greece funded his army massively after this. About asking Murica etc? Do you think Turks will declare war on it's ally for few islets? Turkey will only do this if Greece gave free casus beli like 15/07/74 coup & Enosis etc. Secondly Turkey helped Greece against facist Italy since 30s. How many children we fed during Greek famine? We could easily annex islets during Greek civil war or after Greece abandonment of NATO in 70s. If you try to lock up a nation, it will feel pressured and will react. Turkey is preparing to redraw Aegean sea border's with blood or Ink. Do you think investing in defence industry, making even armed drone's, keeping army active in Syria & Iraq what for? In conclusion Turkey will do what's necessary to for 12 miles shoreline etc, gas beneath mediterraan and North Cyprus. Hopefully without force.

 
Not at all, civilian flag is showed by newspaper museum. Second flag is putted by Greek commando's. That operation was fiasko for Hellenic Army. Navy SF without thermal cam etc. Greece funded his army massively after this. About asking Murica etc? Do you think Turks will declare war on it's ally for few islets? Turkey will only do this if Greece gave free casus beli like 15/07/74 coup & Enosis etc. Secondly Turkey helped Greece against facist Italy since 30s. How many children we fed during Greek famine? We could easily annex islets during Greek civil war or after Greece abandonment of NATO in 70s. If you try to lock up a nation, it will feel pressured and will react. Turkey is preparing to redraw Aegean sea border's with blood or Ink. Do you think investing in defence industry, making even armed drone's, keeping army active in Syria & Iraq what for? In conclusion Turkey will do what's necessary to for 12 miles shoreline etc, gas beneath mediterraan and North Cyprus. Hopefully without force.

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As i said in the past there is no need to argue constantly and wasting energy, we will resolve our differences in a military manner, in the field.


You can keep quoting Nazi Lebensraum vital space theories about the need for space and your nation being ''locked up''... I don't see any lock up, trade and naval passage are free in the Aegean, it's you that you are ''locking up'' the Straights, applying the Montreux convention sometimes questionably.

Your problem is that you want to reestablish some kind of Ottoman rule to the area and to the Balkans using military force not only vs Greece but elsewhere too, i remind you that in his book 'The strategic depth'' your ex PM Davutoglu, states that the lease of US KC 135 refueling aircraft and the then purchase of the same type by the Turkish air force back in 1994 was decided in order to support Turkish foreign policy in the Bosnian issue.


It's known since the 70s after research by the French that there is a large reserve of gas in the shape of the letter ''S'', starting upside from the Imia islets and finish in the island of Gavdos south of Crete, which Turkey is also ...claiming. Some years ago a Turkish coast guard ship (UMUT 703) rammed a Greek coast guard ship in the vicinity of Imia islets. Notably the Greek ship was named ''Gavdos''. Here is the video of the ramming:

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People who don't know war say war is war. Two countries will surely meet one day on a common ground and we will share our riches.
 
As i said in the past there is no need to argue constantly and wasting energy, we will resolve our differences in a military manner, in the field.


You can keep quoting Nazi Lebensraum vital space theories about the need for space and your nation being ''locked up''... I don't see any lock up, trade and naval passage are free in the Aegean, it's you that you are ''locking up'' the Straights, applying the Montreux convention sometimes questionably.

Your problem is that you want to reestablish some kind of Ottoman rule to the area and to the Balkans using military force not only vs Greece but elsewhere too, i remind you that in his book 'The strategic depth'' your ex PM Davutoglu, states that the lease of US KC 135 refueling aircraft and the then purchase of the same type by the Turkish air force back in 1994 was decided in order to support Turkish foreign policy in the Bosnian issue.


It's known since the 70s after research by the French that there is a large reserve of gas in the shape of the letter ''S'', starting upside from the Imia islets and finish in the island of Gavdos south of Crete, which Turkey is also ...claiming. Some years ago a Turkish coast guard ship (UMUT 703) rammed a Greek coast guard ship in the vicinity of Imia islets. Notably the Greek ship was named ''Gavdos''. Here is the video of the ramming:

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12 miles shoreline will lock Turkey that's what I'm talking about. That's we can't bare, Erdogan or not that's mean war to us. And yeah gas oil etc it's another story. Water, food & energy lack is main reason for upcoming wars for incoming decades. As shots fired there will be no winner on Aegean. The warfare will look like Basra battle of 80s between Iraq and Iran. Speaking of economy as far as i know 40% of Greek economy depends on tourism 18% on transportation mainly shipping. Greece can't bare long term war with Turkey. Turkey is self sufficient in agriculture trying to build anything domesticly in defence industry and has huge diaspora in Europe and Us. We are waiting for perfect casus belli and timing. Who knows European Chernobyl in 2030s or war vs Russia or China..
Currently restart of cold war and being neutral benefitting us already. Greece wouldn't receive any Russians this year ( normally 1/3 of tourist's are orthodox Russians in Greece ) while all hotel's are 90% booked in, in Turkish Rivera. I, as a half Flemish ( Belgian ) half Turk can't find proper hotel for this summer.
 
12 miles shoreline will lock Turkey that's what I'm talking about. That's we can't bare, Erdogan or not that's mean war to us.


Another issue where you guys are completely misinformed by your govt. With 12 miles Greek shoreline, the Turkish territorial waters are actually enlarged plus 2%, there is no economic impact to the current Turkish economic potential.

The main issue of 12 miles is that Greece will control a larger percentage of international waters and sea passages in the Aegean and this doesn't go well with Τurkey but also with some other foreign powers. Also it nulls the various ''grey zone'' and other bs Turkish theories about the Aegean. As you understand, the 12 mile Greek shoreline doesn't effect the existing legitimate rights of Turkey, effects the illegal claims. Effects your Nazi type ''Lebensraum'' theory, ''we are a large nation and we need expansion''.

But it's a legal right, Turkey for example has proclaimed its 12 mile shoreline in its sea borders with Syria and Black Sea since 1964.
So it is a matter of the right timing to be exercised. I don't know if you get the idea how absurd it sounds to international meeting and summits when we explain to third parties what we are threatened with war by exercising a legal right. Notably the UN charter forbids states from the threat of use of force against the territorial integrity of other states.

As i previously wrote, you lost the Aegean in WW2 when you were dealing with Nazi Germany selling them armament materials and being paid by gold stolen from Nazi victims.

P.S. There is a much going debate among military and judicial circles in Greece about our response to all these gung ho Turkish clown politicians like Omer Celik who most likely will seek political asylum in Greece in the near future when the Erdo system collapses. Some say we must overcome our national sentiment being insulted all these years by these clowns, and stick to the EU legislation, not sending them back to the post Erdo regime who might have some plans for them. I say send them all back to their de facto judge, or hangman.
 
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