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Raptor was a good birdie,but they have only 186 of them.They should've gone for a much more cost efficient one though.For example the PAK FA out performs the F-22 in most fields,but still costs less than ~50-70 million a piece compared to F-22's 250 million a pop price tag.

The Chinese Shenyang J-31 costs a hell lot cheaper and is equivalent to the F-35 except VTOL capability.


Kira.
 
http://www.surreymirror.co.uk/a-wor...dness-helped/story-30355711-detail/story.html

A Second World War tank has been dug up in Dorking with the help of The History Channel and Madness frontman Suggs.

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The Canadian "Covenanter" tank was dug up from beneath Denbies Vineyard on Tuesday (May 23) as part of a new series commissioned by the History Channel and is one of two tanks buried at the site by the Canadians at the end of the war.

Andrew Wright, a countryside manager for the National Trust, went along to Denbies to watch the excavation and said that it was a sight to behold.

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He said: "It was obviously really exciting when the digger first started to connect with the tank and you could hear that metallic sound so you knew that it was really there.

"It was quite a long, slow day really but still really exciting as everything was gradually revealed; especially for a layman like me. it was when the recognisable "tanky" bits started to come up, like the tracks and the wheels and where the turret would have been [that it got most exciting].

"It was a very interesting day but was basically just a day of big boys playing with toys – massive winches, diggers and tanks."

According to information on the Ranmore War Memorial website another Covenanter tank was discovered at the Denbies site in the 1970s after its burial site was identified by a former gamekeeper of the land.

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The two tanks were used for training purposes by the Canadian army, based at Headley Court near Leatherhead between 1940 and 1944.
The tanks were only used for training purposes, as by 1943 they were considered too poorly armoured to deal with the new German tanks. They were then buried when the Canadians left in 1944.

The second tank was discovered earlier this year by Manchester-based tank expert Rick Wedlock using specialist equipment and a small digger.

The tank's discovery and excavation will now be featured on a brand new History Channel series presented by Suggs from Madness and archaeologist Stephen Taylor.

Currently being filmed under the working title of WW2 Treasure Hunters, the series, produced by Emporium Productions, is scheduled to be aired this autumn.

The blurb for the new series, sent to us by the History Channel states: "HISTORY® has commissioned a brand new series from Emporium Productions, which pairs Britain's foremost amateur WW2 archaeologist with Madness frontman Suggs, as they uncover new finds across the UK.

"The 10x60' series, WW2 Treasure Hunters (working title), will see Suggs and archaeologist Stephen Taylor bring forgotten stories of World War Two back to life by unearthing artefacts from sites across the UK.

"Filming for WW2 Treasure Hunters has begun and is due to air on HISTORY in the UK this autumn."
 
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Great news I do like TV shows like this mil-smile08
 
Marines get groundbreaking, unstoppable new rifle magazine
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A reliable weapon can be the difference between life and death for those serving in the military.

The Magpul Industries PMAG GEN 3 is a magazine for rifles that ensures the user stays lethal in a fight. More than 20,000 rounds fired? No problem. Still no magazine stoppages.

Why is that so important? Because every time a stoppage happens with a weapon, it means a lost opportunity to neutralize an enemy combatant. But the even bigger issue is that a stoppage can put the warfighter at risk and even lead to loss of life.

With AR, M4, and M27 weapons for example, magazine problems are a primary culprit in stoppages. But if a warfighter uses the PMAG, then the risk of stoppage is massively reduced.


Read More at http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/01...dbreaking-unstoppable-new-rifle-magazine.html

 
I am sorry I hot linked the photos.
Sorry just saw this, it does not matter now as any images hotlinked from either hosting services or other websites are automatically stored on 0ur servers and served via a proxy system. this prevents any bandwidth of the host site being used. :)
 
I just hope the Navy doesn't choose either one of the LCS based proposals.
 
I stated long ago that the USN should go for the USCG National security Cutter design.

I'm with you popeye! That design is successful, seaworthy, reliable, already in production in the US, it's the obvious choice. I did find it strange that Ingalls didn't have a model of it's proposal at SNA 2018, like everyone else did. Very low profile.


From 2017:

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On the topic of frigates, there was interest in bringing back up to 10 OHP class ships back into service. It would have cost about $432 million per ship to regenerate back into service AND operate for 10 years. Seems like a bargain to me. The Navy decided against it.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...perry-class-frigate-reactivation-doesnt-float


Just wondering if the LCS's will ever get a mission that they can handle?
 
I'm with you popeye! That design is successful, seaworthy, reliable, already in production in the US, it's the obvious choice. I did find it strange that Ingalls didn't have a model of it's proposal at SNA 2018, like everyone else did. Very low profile.


From 2017:

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I fully expect that the Ingalls design will be chosen for all the reasons you guys have stated.

The Spanish and Italian designs are probably over sophisticated for the role the USN is looking to fill. Please don't get me started on the lame duck LCS proposals and I would shake my head in disbelief if either design was selected. They are both completely unsuited in my mind for blue water operations in support of the fleet or TG.

My last ship was an Aussie OHP and we loved them! But we also outfitted them as "enhanced" frigates rather than the convoy escort roles/missile sponges the USN originally envisaged them for. Ours were still in very good condition when decommed and we still have 2 younger OHP's in our fleet. I think the costs involved in bringing back ex USN OHP's were too significant for the return in capabilty and hull life.

My money is definitely on the USCG Cutter design
 
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I fully expect that the Ingalls design will be chosen for all the reasons you guys have stated.

The Spanish and Italian designs are probably over sophisticated for the role the USN is looking to fill. Please don't get me started on the lame duck LCS proposals and I would shake my head in disbelief if either design was selected. They are both completely unsuited in my mind for blue water operations in support of the fleet or TG.

My last ship was an Aussie OHP and we loved them! But we also outfitted them as "enhanced" frigates rather than the convoy escort roles/missile sponges the USN originally envisaged them for. Ours were still in very good condition when decommed and we still have 2 younger OHP's in our fleet. I think the costs involved in bringing back ex USN OHP's were too significant for the return in capabilty and hull life.

My money is definitely on the USCG Cutter design


Since it makes sense, maybe that's the kiss of death. :) I agree, the Spanish and Italian designs may be a bit more sophisticated than needed.

As far as the LCS based designs, don't we have enough LCS's which can't be deployed already? I wonder what purpose the US Navy will eventually find for them. I hope they will ultimately be useful.
 
I think the USN was sold a pup on the LCS ships to be honest. After the OHP's were retired there had been no real attempt to replace them with a "like" design and the LCS was a product looking for a market. Some nifty pork barrelling and some pushing from Congress got them shoehorned into replacing the OHP which the design simply couldn't do. It's why it was called a "littoral" combat ship i.e. brown water ops at which IMHO it fails and it simply doesn't have the capacity to front up in fleet warfare.

For the 1st time in the USN history they have no frigate class to provide the backbone of the workaday fleet and the Arleigh Bourkes have shouldered the load which while being a powerful vessel are probably over kill for many of the roles it has been put into and the LCS are again IMHO, a lost cause.

Just my 2c:)
 

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