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Where is that written? i've only seen talks of frozing on the current frontline
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Wishful thinking and a lack of understanding of the Russian mindset.
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Found it, its a misunderstanding. Russia is willing to relinquish claims on the regions they claim theirs, but don't fully occupy. So they will keep what they have but will "give up" claims on Kherson for example. They wont give back anything they currently occupy.
None of that matters if Zelensky isn't even willing to let go of Crimea.
"Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.
"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky told reporters.
The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed proposal to end the war in Ukraine.
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"Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.
"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky told reporters.
The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed proposal to end the war in Ukraine.
Zelensky rules out recognizing Crimea as Russian, warns against playing into Putin's 'game'
"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
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What a load of propaganda bullshit.
The guy is such a loser clown.
He is only good to post things he gets from the Krems agitprop department on X.
I scrolled through the rest of his trife man what an idiot.
The EU should think about shutting down X.
Get yourself a VPN and pay for it if its so informative.
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They hate you even more.
China now doesn't export rare earth's anymore.
Super intelligent Dr.Trump way.
He should get an intelligence briefing that it all doesn't work like that.
Also not just because it's obvious let's think for a second Russia and China talked about the Trump strategy of being nice to Russia to get it out of orbit. They may have also found that out you know.
He does everything on the fly without preparation or evaluation.
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Nordstream was a deal by Schröder and Putin that's all you need to know.
The cheap gas aspect was the driver and when shut down also an argument, especially the AfD used, look no cheap gas we have to pay more because of Ukraine.
You can also directly order your energy from the Mafia.
Its true that the Soviet Union already shipped gas westwards but that is a complete other story.
Extended archival footage of the battle has been published, 12 Ukrainian servicemen against 5 Russian soldiers. The video was filmed near the village of Urozhainoye in Donbass, at a stronghold of the Russian army, which Ukrainian servicemen are trying to storm. The stronghold is defended by units of the 37th separate guards motorized rifle brigade of Russia. It was not possible to establish which Ukrainian unit participated in the battle. Despite the numerical superiority of the Ukrainian group, it does not try to storm the stronghold or outflank it, mainly throwing grenades and shooting over the trenches. Russian serviceman Ivan Kalashnikov, deputy platoon commander, also throws grenades and shoots in response. The video is long, the clip is shortened, showing all the active moments of the battle. Ultimately, having failed to capture the stronghold, the Ukrainian group retreats. Following the battle, the Russian servicemen were awarded.
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Based on the information received about the terms for peace. If I was Zelenskyi/Ukraine I would accept.
If russia has issues with european troops on the ground that on them but potentially derailing the negotiations for territory that Ukraine has no means to claim back would be idiotic.
Russia relinquishes claims on the regions not occupied, no reduction of Ukraines military, frontline is frozen. Too bad about no nato, but never say never. I would be interested to hear, since EU is not off the table, that is Russia against deepening defense alliance directly between European nations and Ukraine.
edit. no clue how Ukrainians themselves feel about it. I did read that if Zelenskyi accepts these terms his political career will be over due to unhappy populace.
If russia has issues with european troops on the ground that on them but potentially derailing the negotiations for territory that Ukraine has no means to claim back would be idiotic.
Russia relinquishes claims on the regions not occupied, no reduction of Ukraines military, frontline is frozen. Too bad about no nato, but never say never. I would be interested to hear, since EU is not off the table, that is Russia against deepening defense alliance directly between European nations and Ukraine.
edit. no clue how Ukrainians themselves feel about it. I did read that if Zelenskyi accepts these terms his political career will be over due to unhappy populace.
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So basically the deal is, Russia wins gains land and new territory and Ukraine gets no security guarantees and just enough rest till Russia rearms and push again to gain more territory?
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Of which they already occupy. Trump clearly isn't willing to leverage arms aid nor sanctions to get those back. And Europe is out of leverage with almost full sanctions and are continuing arms deliveries.
No security guarantees from the US, but I haven't seen mention about European states being parred for doing such a thing.
What i've read from social media ukrainians, they believe they could achieve such terms alone, thus they dont need the US to broker such a shitty deal.
No clue what Yermak truly means by: We emphasized our commitment to the peace efforts of U.S. President
As i have stated earlier, i would support Ukraine no matter what they decide. Giving up territorial integrity is a shitty deal. But the only nation that has leverage is not willing to use it. One would think that negotiating a deal with either
a) territorial changes in exchange for US security guarantees or nato membership
b) vice versa. no membership, guarantees for receiving territory back
Would be a given, but im clearly lost in the art of the deal.
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Russia currently occupies 18% of Ukraine's territory, so that would just be lost like that. No NATO membership and I'm pretty sure Russia doesnt want European troops on the front. So no security guarantees. So basically, Ukraine should surrender for a little rest time, till Russia re arm and creeps again.
As for the art of the deal, the US is sacrificing Ukraine for what it thinks is the better piece of the pie for them... and we all know how much the Americans love Chinese take out.
If Ukraine agrees to it, then that is up to them. All I see however, is a stronger Russian resolve, Russians wont even miss the people they lost. Ukraine agreeing to this would make for a very dangerous future, only reason I see them saying yes, is they also have time to build up and I'm pretty sure they will get their nukes back.
An episode of combat work in Ukraine, the Russian ZRPK "Tunguska-M", 18th combined arms army of the "Dnepr" group of forces. The Tunguska-M air defense is also used by the Ukrainian army. In the video, the Tunguska-M ZRPK shoots down a Ukrainian drone using a 9M311-M1 missile. The drone's wreckage is shown at the end of the video, the drone model is not reported, the location of the shooting is unknown. It is worth noting that the Tunguska-M air defense has become more common.
Footage of an attempt by Ukrainian kamikaze drones of the aircraft type, presumably UJ-22 Airborne and Aeroprakt A-22, to attack the Russian economic zone "Alabuga" in Tatarstan. The Ukrainians were supposed to hit the Russian enterprise producing kamikaze drones "Geran". This is not the first attempt to attack this enterprise. The Russian army allegedly used the "Pantsir-S1" and "Tor-M2" air defense systems to repel the attack. Not all missiles immediately hit the target, presumably the air defense was operating at maximum range, or the terrain folds interfered with the radar. It is reported that 5 Ukrainian drones took part in the attack, all of them were shot down by Russian air defense.
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