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Ukraine apparently wants Russia to be on their toes and force them to spread troops even further.
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The Russians locked themselves into a static grinding war of attrition. I guess Ukr has decided on different rules.
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I saw the Sofa Signal in the sky right away, but it took me awhile to find my epaulettes under the pizza boxes. The Armchair General Staff may be slow, but we are also inaccurate.
They should have parked back at the base after they poured vodka on the the ignition system. Sorry boss all the vehicles are redlined.
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About the Ukrainian advance on Kursk:
According to (pro-Russian) Telegram channel 'Two Majors', a Ukrainian brigade has opened a second axis of attack north-west of Sudzha, in the Belovsky rayon. (Source) 'Rybar' (also pro-Russian) dismisses these reports as misinformation spread by panicked troops, but also expects an attack coming from this direction. (Source)
According to 'Rybar', the Ukrainian advance towards Korenevo (here) has stalled; on all other axes of attack, however, he describes the Russian situation as "difficult". 76,000 civilians have been evacuated from the area. 'Rybar' now fears that the Ukrainian attack is aimed at cutting Belgorod off from the Western and Northern Military Districts, swinging south and capturing the city to hold it as a bargaining chip.
According to Perpetua's data, the confirmed materiel losses on both sides (i.e. destroyed, damaged beyond immediate repair or abandoned) since the start of the offensive (data from 06 to 09 August) are as follows:
Helicopters: 5 Russian
Main battle tanks: 31 Russian, 7 Ukrainian
Armoured personnel carriers: 33 Russian, 13 Ukrainian
Armoured personnel carriers, armoured personnel carriers: 14 Russian, 13 Ukrainian
Protected wheeled vehicles (MRAP): 16 Ukrainian
Rocket artillery systems: 2 Russian, 1 Ukrainian
Howitzers (self-propelled): 10 Russian, 3 Ukrainian
Howitzers (towed): 32 Russian, 10 Ukrainian
Air defence systems: 1 Ukrainian
Unprotected transport vehicles (lorries, off-road vehicles, quads, motorbikes): 167 Russian, 52 Ukrainian
Total: 300 : 116 (2.58 : 1)
From 01 to 06 August the ratio was 2.49 : 1, in July it was 2.39 : 1.
The Ukrainians keep inflicting higher casualties on the Russians even though they've gone on the offensive.
According to (pro-Russian) Telegram channel 'Two Majors', a Ukrainian brigade has opened a second axis of attack north-west of Sudzha, in the Belovsky rayon. (Source) 'Rybar' (also pro-Russian) dismisses these reports as misinformation spread by panicked troops, but also expects an attack coming from this direction. (Source)
According to 'Rybar', the Ukrainian advance towards Korenevo (here) has stalled; on all other axes of attack, however, he describes the Russian situation as "difficult". 76,000 civilians have been evacuated from the area. 'Rybar' now fears that the Ukrainian attack is aimed at cutting Belgorod off from the Western and Northern Military Districts, swinging south and capturing the city to hold it as a bargaining chip.
According to Perpetua's data, the confirmed materiel losses on both sides (i.e. destroyed, damaged beyond immediate repair or abandoned) since the start of the offensive (data from 06 to 09 August) are as follows:
Helicopters: 5 Russian
Main battle tanks: 31 Russian, 7 Ukrainian
Armoured personnel carriers: 33 Russian, 13 Ukrainian
Armoured personnel carriers, armoured personnel carriers: 14 Russian, 13 Ukrainian
Protected wheeled vehicles (MRAP): 16 Ukrainian
Rocket artillery systems: 2 Russian, 1 Ukrainian
Howitzers (self-propelled): 10 Russian, 3 Ukrainian
Howitzers (towed): 32 Russian, 10 Ukrainian
Air defence systems: 1 Ukrainian
Unprotected transport vehicles (lorries, off-road vehicles, quads, motorbikes): 167 Russian, 52 Ukrainian
Total: 300 : 116 (2.58 : 1)
From 01 to 06 August the ratio was 2.49 : 1, in July it was 2.39 : 1.
The Ukrainians keep inflicting higher casualties on the Russians even though they've gone on the offensive.
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Meanwhile in Kursk oblast - civilians are being press-ganged into the army to resist Ukrainians. No worries, n00b soldiers, you will receive 10 hours of thorough training in flying drones! This will be done by 2 man teams - a pilot and an assistant. Don't worry - the drones will be there. If not... well, one of you gets a rifle - the other, a magazine.
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Recap with maps of all counterattacks from Russia yesterday in Kursk region and the day before. Some could have been very damaging for the Ukrainians but they outsmarted the Russians for the most part.
Movement has restarted towards the south and east and Plekhovo is under control from Ukraine and the river is crossed. Russia has little to put up ahainst the Ukrainians. Question is how much the Ukrainians have to conquer and hold.
Movement has restarted towards the south and east and Plekhovo is under control from Ukraine and the river is crossed. Russia has little to put up ahainst the Ukrainians. Question is how much the Ukrainians have to conquer and hold.
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To be on the party crasher side, I hope this does not end like the counteroffensive that used tons of shells for nothing. Russians have reacted, there was some real fighting yesterday, Korenovo is for the moment impassible.
If this moves intends to make the Russians move troops from eastern Ukraine and putting them in the open where they could be targetted, it makes sense..as long as availabe russian forces don't have time to fortify things around Belgorod and Kursk.
Speed is everything but speed requires top level logistics...are they available?
If this moves intends to make the Russians move troops from eastern Ukraine and putting them in the open where they could be targetted, it makes sense..as long as availabe russian forces don't have time to fortify things around Belgorod and Kursk.
Speed is everything but speed requires top level logistics...are they available?
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Thats exactly what my fear is. A PR like Belgorod attacked that costed many soldiers lives just to gain a few embarassing moments to Russia...Let's see.
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They are balls deep in Russian territory, this is beyond a PR stunt. This is just a death knell to the Russian integrity as a superpower. However, I am awaiting the next boot to drop as it seems like an invasion and holding territory would be something else, operational and at enormous cost.
Aside from forcing Russians out in teh open and as a bargaining chip should Trump win, could it be a a Thunder Run into Kursk then, pull back and burn the entire place ala Gulf War. Regroup consolidate and then go for another province, type of operation? Would keep the Russian on their toes and destroy civilian morale if all the infrastructure are razed.
Oh and another interesting thing to note, is the 2024/25 winter forecast is a "La Nina" setting in... if the Russians cant kick out the Ukrainians in the Kursk Area, that would be a sticky situation for the Ruskies,
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