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My Boy Jack - film about author Kipling's son

Discussion in 'Military TV & film' started by ArcticWolf, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. ArcticWolf

    ArcticWolf Mi Staff Sergeant MI.Net Member

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    I just finished watching this film about Lieutenant John Kipling. It's very moving and shows Rudyard Kipling's son as very patriotic and a great example to the men under his command.

    Also, have a read about some more of the factual errors (see Goofs) portrayed in the film, according to the following website - very interesting:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851430/

    "In the movie the soldiers are taught to fire the Lee-Enfield rifle using their index finger on the trigger. This is incorrect. Guards regiments in the early part of the war were taught to fire 20 aimed rounds per minute. This fast rate of fire was achieved by virtue of the close proximity of the bolt mechanism and the trigger mechanism on the .303 Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle. Soldiers in Guards regiments were trained (like the Old Contemptibles) to fire the Lee-Enfield using the middle finger to fire the weapon while the index finger and thumb worked the bolt. The index finger and thumb would keep hold of the bolt THROUGHOUT the firing procedure, thus speeding up the rate of fire considerably. In the movie soldiers are clearly shown releasing the bolt on every shot in order to use the index finger to fire the weapon."

    Extract from National Archives website:

    http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=First_World_War_Poets#John_Kipling

    John Kipling:

    Son of the Nobel Prize for Literature winner, Rudyard Kipling, Lt. John Kipling was commissioned into the Irish Guards at the outbreak of war despite being very short sighted.

    He died on 27th September 1915, the 2nd day of his posting to the front, at the Batttle of Loos. He was 18 years old.

    Contemporary reports relate that he was last seen wandering the battlefield, disorientated, suffering from fatal facial wounds. His body was not recovered.

    Rudyard Kipling's eulogy to his missing son, 'My Boy Jack' was written in late 1915.

    Initially John Kipling was commemorated on a panel of the Loos War memorial at Dud Corner Cemetery, along with Charles Hamilton Sorley and Fergus Bowes-Lyon, brother of the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

    In 1992 the Commonwealth War Graves Commission identified a grave in St Mary's A.D.S Cemetery at Haisnes as containing the body of John Kipling. This identification was subsequently challenged by Tonie and Valmai Holt (and others). John Kipling's name remains on the Loos memorial to the missing.

    Picture of his assumed grave, and pictures of Lieut John Kipling:

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=12868925


    @ArcticWolf - I have placed your review of this film into the 'Showcase Reviews' here
    http://www.militaryimages.net/showcase/my-boy-jack.4/
    It is also under your username.
     
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  2. John A Silkstone United Kingdom

    John A Silkstone Mi General MI.Net Member

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    Yes indeed this is a great movie and David Haig portrayal of Rudyard Kipling is very well done. A completely different character that the bungling detective inspector Grim in the TV series ‘The Thin Blue Line.’
     

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