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Iran asking 364bil dollar from the US is one hell of an acid trip.
Anybody believing this will happen need to have their cranial cavity checked.

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Anyway; critical infrastructures have been crippled, the regime has been crippled, the army has been crippled, regional proxies have been crippled.
This is neither a peace treaty, a ceasefire nor something that will last no time at all before Lebanon gets bombed again.

It is a memorandum of understanding, a sort of ceasefire but a bit stronger which is not stopping, and won't stop, Israel from bombing Lebanon if its wants to and/or deem it necessary.

So, what have we got...
We have a Memorandum of Understanding to be signed in Switzerland on June 19th between the US and Iran.


Initially Iran had proposed the following 14 point draft:
-Permanent Ceasefire: An immediate halt to fighting on all regional fronts, including Lebanon.
-Naval Blockade: Lifting of the U.S. naval blockade within 30 days.
-Strait of Hormuz: Reopening the Strait of Hormuz under Iranian arrangements.
-Troop Withdrawal: A U.S. commitment to withdraw its military forces from areas surrounding Iran.
-Sanctions Relief: Suspending energy and oil sanctions, and lifting broad U.S. sanctions on Iran.
-Financial Release: Releasing $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during a 60-day negotiation period.
-Nuclear Commitments: A reiteration of Iran's commitment not to produce nuclear weapons and establishing a 60-day window to finalize nuclear negotiations.
-Sovereignty & Non-Interference: A U.S. commitment to respect Iranian sovereignty and not interfere in its internal affairs.
-Prerequisites for Talks: Final negotiations cannot officially begin until at least half of Iran's frozen assets are released, oil sanctions are suspended, and the U.S. naval blockade is completely lifted.
-Missile Program Exclusion: Discussions regarding Iran's ballistic missile program are completely removed from the negotiating agenda.
-Proxy and Regional Group Exclusion: Discussions concerning Iran's financial and military support for "resistance groups" (regional proxies) are entirely excluded from the scope of the final deal.
-Scope of the Final Agreement: The eventual permanent deal will strictly be limited to the fate of uranium enrichment activities, economic sanctions relief, and war reconstruction.
-No New Sanctions: The United States commits to a complete freeze on imposing any new economic sanctions against Iran during the interim period.
-UN Security Council Endorsement: The final, completed agreement must be formally approved and codified through a United Nations Security Council resolution.



The US has reportedly agreed to:
-The Cessation of Hostilities: A mutual agreement to permanently end military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon.
-Lifting the Naval Blockade: The U.S. will remove its maritime blockade to allow the Strait of Hormuz to fully reopen. President Trump noted the vital shipping lane will be "permanently toll-free.".
-A 60-Day Negotiation Framework: Entering a 60-day window to hammer out the complex, final terms regarding long-term nuclear commitments and broader sanctions relief.

The U.S. disagrees on:
-Flatly rejected Iran's claims regarding the sequencing of funds and exclusions.

Good job lying. :rolleyes:


-While Iranian media stated that $12 billion of the $24 billion in frozen assets must be released before talks begin, a senior U.S. official told Axios that this is strictly a "pay-for-performance deal" and no funds will be released until Iran implements specific verification commitments.

Again, good job lying.


-Israel was entirely excluded from the secret, Pakistani-mediated negotiations and is not a party to the agreement. Israeli leaders have notably remained silent following the announcement.
-The framework fails to meet Israel's core war objectives: it does not eliminate Iran's nuclear program, deplete its ballistic missile stockpiles, or force regime change.
-The inclusion of Lebanon in the permanent ceasefire directly impacts Israel's ongoing conflict with Hezbollah.

But since Israel has been both excluded from the negotiations and is not a party to the agreement, any of the conditions are not binding to Israel. Israel is at liberty to hit whatever it wants and/or deem necessary. If it draws the ire of the US, who cares? Israel is a sovereign country with nuclear weapons.

Because Israel has not agreed to the terms, any further preemptive military action by the IDF against Iranian targets or Hezbollah could easily collapse the 60-day negotiation period before a final treaty is signed.


Furthermore, it is important to note and keep in mind that a Memorandum of Understanding is non-binding and is not a Treaty either, nor an agreement, an accord, nor an armistice. It is simply an understanding of how to proceed forward.



But our honorary IRGC mouthpieces and "foreign policies experts" have got to earn their living, I suppose.
 
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If anything is signed at all.

Lots of things can go sideways, and all of the actors can find a few to f things up.
 
In the end, Iran did not get what they wanted, the US is not leaving the region, Iran is getting $0 in unfrozen assets unless they comply and the Strait of Hormuz is set to be fully open on Friday.
 
How will the regime like this?

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From ZeroHedge. Official is not named, but I don't see why ZH would make up this, as they are mainly a business news media. I would not sell these oil companies shares at the moment if I had any...:p
 
Lots of stuff circulating around.


1) Iran must frame this as a victory over the great satan. See, they tried to destroy us, but WE made them agree to this.

2) From the leftist/TDS/anti-US faction. What a stupid deal. Not as good as what Dear Leader Obama got with his pallets of cash and pathway to a nuclear weapon.

In the end, if those lunatics in Iran don't get a nuke and the Strait of Hormuz opens without restriction most will be happy. No matter what, Iran is severely wounded, and may never fully recover - or at least take years/decades. Will there be an internal uprising? I don't know. The regime has no problem murdering tens of thousands of it's own people to keep a grip on power. Iranian society will have to decide.

And Israel will continue to do what it does in it's own self interest.
 
Oh and, with regards to the "the US is going to give out US$ 394 bil to Iran" BS previously stated as fact...

The USA is not giving Iran $300 billion. But, somehow, seeing these three words, US - $300bil - Iran, in the same sentence couldn't possibly mean anything else than "the US is going to pay Iran $300bil because they US are dumb and Trump is a retard".

What it means is that once the IRGC stops behaving like the absolute regional jackasses that they are, knock on wood, finally disappear, and take the hint to stop their nuclear BS and terrorism activities fully, and try acting like a normal country, then investment, from other regional countries and even the US (and also the EU, but they are already gargling on the IRGC's shaft like there is no tomorrow), might occur with prediction reaching $300bil.

Again, nobody is giving $300 bil to Iran.

To say, think and believe otherwise is... well I don't think it is necessary to put words on that, hum?

But heh... nothing changed, everything is the same, Trump failed from A to Z and then back to A, he big dumb stoopid, "I would have done much better if it had been up to me", and the usual back-seat commentaries.
 
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So, no $340bn for the p1ss deal?
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Really? 🙃
 
So, no $340bn for the p1ss deal?
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That is sourced from the Iranian Propaganda Machine. " See, our superior military so hurt America that they will pay us to stop destroying them".
 
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Iran switched terminology. Now it's service fee for passage through the straight. Cost us more to keep troops and hardware around to keep them in compliance. These guys in Iran are slicker than Bill Clinton.
 
Guess what will happen 🫩


Iran has once again stated that the memorandum of understanding with the United States will only be signed if Israel withdraws from southern Lebanon and stops attacking Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. However, Israel has already said it will not leave the area, arguing that if it withdraws, the terrorists will reactivate the sites from which they launch rockets against northern Israel.
So now, what happens to Trump's memorandum with Iran?


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