- Joined
- Apr 14, 2019
- Messages
- 8,733
- Points
- 284
Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.
- Thread starter Musashi
- Start date
- Joined
- Apr 27, 2018
- Messages
- 489
- Points
- 259
Was he missing any digits or didn't they trust him w/ a pager . . . ??
- Joined
- Apr 29, 2022
- Messages
- 451
- Points
- 228
Could they really be that stupid (yeah, I guess)? AD mostly in pieces after an Israeli strike that could have otherwise let them lick their wounds and save their faces.
- Joined
- Apr 17, 2019
- Messages
- 1,231
- Points
- 248
French court rules Israel can participate in Paris Euronaval exhibition
Paris Commercial Court ruled against President Emmanuel Macron and the French government, allowing Israeli companies to participate in the Euronaval exhibition
Macron got his 2 cents of political capital from the local Islamists and lefties, Israel got to participate in the exhibition - a win-win...
- Joined
- Apr 15, 2019
- Messages
- 13,104
- Points
- 338
The only genuine (as in: existing, working, etc...) AD systems they have are the S400, S300/300PMU, Thor and, perhaps, Rapier.
We know they have Thors and we know it works because they shot down a civilian airliner a few years back.
I am disregarding manpads because they lack relevance in this context.
The rest is retrofitted, renamed systems and homemade copies. They look fancy when they are out parading, but that's pretty much all there is to it. Do they actually work? Do they actually perform? Are the crews actually trained? etc...
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2019
- Messages
- 8,733
- Points
- 284
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2018
- Messages
- 9,253
- Points
- 328
Who knows. Sounds like they are upset. They essentially have no air defense now, or at least third world air defense. The Iranian air force is a non-factor. Israel could stop their oil production within a few hours. Perhaps they feel international pressure won't allow that. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I'm not even sure they have enough ballistic missiles for another attack. Long distance drones are simply air-to-air practice for US/Israeli/coalition aircraft.
Iran should just get it's sh!t together before Israel does a decapitation strike.
- Joined
- Apr 15, 2019
- Messages
- 13,104
- Points
- 338
No matter the state of Iran's AD, the country starts with massive handicaps:
-no air force.
-no EWS to speak of.
To draw a parallel, look at Ukraine:
-no air force to speak of.
-no EWS to speak of, apart from the one provided by NATO.
The only difference is that Ukraine has decent and working AD, and Russia does not need to leave Russia's airspace.
-no air force.
-no EWS to speak of.
To draw a parallel, look at Ukraine:
-no air force to speak of.
-no EWS to speak of, apart from the one provided by NATO.
The only difference is that Ukraine has decent and working AD, and Russia does not need to leave Russia's airspace.
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2023
- Messages
- 857
- Points
- 159
I've seen nothing concrete to confirm this and I doubt very much they have it, that would have been a priority target I'm sure if so. Ukraine has demonstrated that the system is not invincible in any case, and an attack with 5th generation F-35s would likely wipe the floor clean too.
They had about 400 ballistics that could reach Israel and have used 300 of them so they literally have about 100 left, and I doubt they'd want to waste those on another fireworks show that doesn't really do anything. Last time state media claimed they wiped out all the F-35s at Nevatim and yet those same F-35s mysteriously were repaired and used to kick their sorry butts 25 days later, funny that...
- Joined
- Apr 15, 2019
- Messages
- 13,104
- Points
- 338
Allegedly they have it.
Now, do they have all of the components, and do they know how to use properly?
Though I don't know the answer for the first part, I would assume the answer to the second part is no.
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2023
- Messages
- 857
- Points
- 159
Yeah but that's what I mean, the "allegedly" comes from fringe dubious sources, most MSM talks about Iran wanting it but not actually getting it. Iran and Russia are supposed to be signing some joint defence contract soon, so perhaps that will be part of it.
Anyway, here's a video from two years ago that demonstrates how the system would likely perform against the latest Western technology;
It'd be pretty much blind...
- Joined
- May 6, 2019
- Messages
- 984
- Points
- 149
And once again this Salami Guy... It's time for someone to slice the salami for the pizza
- Joined
- Sep 2, 2019
- Messages
- 6,648
- Points
- 378
I’m taking f14 escorted back to Israel by f35 in the next bingo round.
- Joined
- Apr 9, 2019
- Messages
- 7,004
- Points
- 293
Would make a nice addition to the Armored Corps Museum!
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2023
- Messages
- 857
- Points
- 159
An 85 year old man has become senile, probably a good idea to put him down...
Similar threads
