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Scholz's SPD party breathe a sigh of relief following local election
Yeah, that's misplaced. Brandenburg's prime minister Woidke maintained maximum distance from Scholz and his party. Many of his election posters did not even show the SPD logo. And Scholz was uninvited from going on the campaign trail with him, which is probably a unique occurrence.

Scholz's coalition partners, the Greens and the Liberal Party, were both kicked out of the state parliament.

The Green party leadership resigned today, and German media are ripe with rumors that the liberals intend to leave the coalition before November 14 (when the budget for 2025 has to be finalised).
 
Yeah, that's misplaced. Brandenburg's prime minister Woidke maintained maximum distance from Scholz and his party. Many of his election posters did not even show the SPD logo. And Scholz was uninvited from going on the campaign trail with him, which is probably a unique occurrence.

Scholz's coalition partners, the Greens and the Liberal Party, were both kicked out of the state parliament.

The Green party leadership resigned today, and German media are ripe with rumors that the liberals intend to leave the coalition before November 14 (when the budget for 2025 has to be finalised).
Ol’ Ollie dodged the defeat by introducing border checks on Monday.
 
Ol’ Ollie dodged the defeat by introducing border checks on Monday.
I don't think so.

Most voters do recognise this move as the smoke screen that it is, and they're also aware of the shameful fact that existing laws and administrative practice mean it won't be hugely effective. Sure, they'll stop (most) criminals with open warrants from entering the country, but that's about it. They won't cut migration down unless the entire legal framework is changed accordingly.

Even if Scholz wanted to try (which he doesn't), he would be about as effective in controlling Germany's borders as Britain's prime ministers were effective about "stopping the boats".

Nay, this election was about the incumbent state prime minister Dietmar Woidke. For some inexplicable reason he is not unpopular, and left-leaning swing voters from other parties raced to his assistance in order to prevent an AfD majority. This wasn't about Scholz, and he would know that. Woidke did everything he could to disassociate himself from Scholz short of leaving the goddamn party.
 
I don't think so.
I think so.
See this poll on the 18th of September:
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If AfD-rasts got 23.5% against 28% in the poll, they lost 16.5% of voters in a few days. That's a massive drop for such a short period.
This is also interesting:
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Most voters do recognise this move as the smoke screen that it is, and they're also aware of the shameful fact that existing laws and administrative practice mean it won't be hugely effective. Sure, they'll stop (most) criminals with open warrants from entering the country, but that's about it. They won't cut migration down unless the entire legal framework is changed accordingly.
Matteo Putineo misled his electorate, as his ballZ are tied up by the ECHR.
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I don't know if his voters believed he'd say tutti fuori!!! and the illegals would magically leave his country.

I don't know how Giorgia wants to achieve it, but her party is still very popular:
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@Musashi

You've overlooked where Dietmar Woidke's gains came from. Compared to the last state elections, he gained (a measly) 143.000 votes, with 47.000 coming from the Greens, 25.000 coming from The Left and 20.000 coming from CDU as well as the Free Voters. (Source)

The Greens and The Left strongly oppose Berlin's suspending of Schengen, so they most definitely didn't vote SPD because Olaf Scholz pretends to care about border security all of a sudden. And the Brandenburgian CDU and FV campaigned on a ticket of Germany virtually leaving Schengen, so their supporters had no reason to defect to an SPD which is paying lip service to the idea of border security.

The only voters whom one could suggest might've been swayed by that were the 51.000 people picked up by Woidke who'd not cast a vote in 2019. But I find that hard to believe, considering how Woidke had gone to great lengths not to be associated with Scholz or his party. Besides, Woidke lost votes to only two parties: AfD and BSW, both of which demand more border security as well.

Most German pundits say this was about staving off an AfD majority, and I do believe them.

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In other news, following their disastrous losses in several state elections, the Liberal party is rumoured to be discussing leaving the government of Scholz before November 14 (when 2025's budget is due). Scholz would be without a majority then. (Source)

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In other other news, CDU's new leader Friedrich Merz (likely Germany's next head of government) has given an interview to the country's biggest rag, 'Bild', outlining his plans if elected:
  • moratorium on immigration
  • lowering the age of criminal culpability
  • modifying a juvenile penal code clause allowing 18-21-year olds to be tried as juveniles
  • reducing bureaucracy, particularly the environmental mandates introduced by the incumbent government
  • doubling down on supporting Ukraine
  • enabling Ukrainian victory at least on the negotiating table; he doesn't think that Ukraine can win militarily in the strict sense of the word, but believes that Germany has to enable Ukraine to regain all her territories and stop Russia from further attacks
  • breaking with the current government's "patronising" style of foreign affairs (literally: "we can't be exporters of democracy")
  • taking on Muslim anti-Semitism in earnest
He also said that
  • he won't enter a coalition with the Greens unless they abandon their current manifesto
  • he loves America
  • he doesn't know Kamala Harris personally and can't say how well he would get along with her
  • BSW's communist-social conservative Sahra Wagenknecht is a liar and a demagogue
  • he'll always stand by Israel, but admitted he'd rather see Benny Gantz as prime minister
  • the political split between West and East Germans regarding matters like Ukraine is to be blamed on the socialist dictatorship past of that part of the country, and that whilst he understands where they're coming from he can't be swayed by it
  • he expects to be attacked by the left for having worked for Blackrock, and won't apologise for being wealthy
(Source)

Merz has mellowed over the years; he was actually a member of the right-wing of the pre-Merkel-CDU, going so far as to vote against criminalising rape in marriage (you better believe the media will make him pay for that).

Right now, he sort of represents what CDU mainstream used to be before Merkel.

He'd make a good Chancellor, I think, and I do believe he's trustworthy. He's literally the only notable pre-Merkel CDU guy to never bow to her. Faced with the option to either end a promising career or change his tune, he told her to F*** off.

But even though the polls have been looking good for like over a year now, Merz will have to do some heavy lifting still. I think this is going to be the nastiest election campaign season ever, and evidently Merz thinks that too, because it is common practice in German politics to nominate candidates only a couple of months in advance. For them to have nominated Merz a year in advance is obviously designed to bait Scholz and the media into slinging all their mud now, so that there's still enough time to wash it off.

One thing is certain, though: If Scholz's party sees reason, pulls a Biden and replaces him as their candidate with Germany's highly popular minister of Defence, Boris Pistorius, Merz would be going down. Strategically speaking, he has many weaknesses. Merz is not seen as likable; he's wealthy and pilots his own plane, making him anathema to the entire left; the East Germans dislike him for his pro-American stance.

As if that wasn't enough, his coalition options are looking pretty bleak, and he'll probably be punished for them by voters who'd vote for him but dislike his options. Realistically speaking, it's looking to be either CDU plus Greens or CDU plus SPD (sans Scholz) right now. And it's difficult to say which would be the lesser of the two evils. CDU plus Greens would be better for trade, the state budget (fewer social welfare excesses), the military and Ukraine. CDU plus SPD would be better for conventional industries and would probably be tougher on immigration and crime.

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In a virtually unprecedented coincidence, Germany's leading conservative and progressive media 'Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung' and 'Der Spiegel' have both called for the entire government to step down and make way for new elections.

f***ing hell. As things stand right now, Scholz has either to stage a coup or learn to walk on water to survive this legislative period.
 
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Schaeffler bought Vitesco now entering the top ten league of automotive suppliers with a combined sales volume of 25 bill. €.


 
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The Deputy President of the Bundestag threatens the Liberals will leave the Scholz coalition government if Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) fails to either resign or refute press reports about her department demanding assurances from Israel that German arms would not be used to commit genocide in Gaza: Link
 
Scholz's days are numbered. Left-leaning 'Der Spiegel' reports that he told his own party's parliament caucus that he would have to call a vote of confidence if they refused to completely back his new domestic security bill. As it stands, some 30 SPD MP's have indicated they'll vote with nay. (Source)

I can't overstate the precarious nature of his situation by local standards. It'd be the first federal government to collapse since 1982.
 
The Deputy President of the Bundestag threatens the Liberals will leave the Scholz coalition government if Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) fails to either resign or refute press reports about her department demanding assurances from Israel that German arms would not be used to commit genocide in Gaza: Link
Just out of curiosity, what weapons does Germany actually export to Israel? I can only recall ships and subs ...
 
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Just out of curiosity, what weapons does Germany actually export to Israel? I can only recall ships and subs ...
The lawsuit pressed by Nicaragua against Germany revealed that plenty of other stuff was sold to Israel as well, particularly missiles*, artillery shell detonators and parts for combat vehicles. But most of that was delivered before November 2023, hardly any shipments have been granted since, which is part of the reason why Nicaragua's case collapsed. It seems as if the administration recently granted or at least considered granting a bundle of requests that have been stacking up since march.

*) I'm not sure, but I think that they just rerouted a delivery of licence-built Spike-ER to Israel.

The Liberals are royally pissed about the delay and the excuses presented by the Greens. Today, the aforesaid Deputy President (named Wolfgang Kubicki) told Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (to her face and infront of the whole parliament) that she "had best lawyer up 'cause some criminal investigator ought to have a look at your house".

I can't imagine they'll leave the coalition over Israel, which is not an election winning subject matter. But I do think they're looking to cause controversy so that the coalition implodes and they can leave without opening themselves to accusations of treachery.
 
The Deputy President of the Bundestag threatens the Liberals will leave the Scholz coalition government if Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) fails to either resign or refute press reports about her department demanding assurances from Israel that German arms would not be used to commit genocide in Gaza: Link
The Liberals issued an ultimatum to Scholz today: massive tax reductions; massively lowered welfare payments to asylum seekers; a moratorium on new laws that impose any sort of regulation on the economy; no new debts; and a dropping of the climate goals in favour of a strengthened economy.

They're acting as if they hadn't been a part of the government these past three years.

But I'm quite sure that this will be it. They'll walk. The Reds and the Greens can't realistically give in to their demands. Interesting weeks lie ahead. Theoretically, Scholz could continue with a minority government, but it's never been done before, and he won't have a majority for anything of significance. He'd have to schedule a vote of confidence.
 
The Liberals issued an ultimatum to Scholz today: massive tax reductions; massively lowered welfare payments to asylum seekers; a moratorium on new laws that impose any sort of regulation on the economy; no new debts; and a dropping of the climate goals in favour of a strengthened economy.

They're acting as if they hadn't been a part of the government these past three years.

But I'm quite sure that this will be it. They'll walk. The Reds and the Greens can't realistically give in to their demands. Interesting weeks lie ahead. Theoretically, Scholz could continue with a minority government, but it's never been done before, and he won't have a majority for anything of significance. He'd have to schedule a vote of confidence.
I heard some Polish analytics talking about general problems in the EU.
They said the U.S.A. has surpassed the EU economy per capita by a very big margin and the gap will just increase, as the EU does not invest enough money in artificial intelligence compared to the U.S.A. and China.
In addition, the madness over reaching climate goals makes the EU economy uncompetitive we have a costly energy.
They pointed out that the EU is responsible for just 6% or 7% of the world's emissions. Reducing them won't save the planet, as countries like China and India don't care about their own emissions too much and they are going to increase them instead of decreasing them.

I can just add that green energy will make us live longer, so our governments will need to pay us our pensions for longer.

Hence, if we keep doing the stuff the way we do at the moment, our economies will crash due to being uncompetitive. The ageing population is another factor that decreases our competitiveness. Importing immigrants from #shitholeCountries makes things worse as they cost us much more than they contribute.

The current EU business model is totally unsustainable.
 
Looks like a repeat of the British wool that was loosing sales to cotton imports ironically via the pirates of the British East India company whom were tariffed.
After riots. Those days they rioted for work.
The Govt created the Woollen act to protect wool manufacturing but imports of cotton still arrived so they made the Calico act that banned cotton except for 2000 raw bales of cotton that started the ingeneous British cotton mill industry mastering the art of mechanised spinning and weaving which was better than all else so the workers were paid better than anybody else.
Nothing lasts forever and just as today those forementioned pirates set up mills in India later causing a famine for the workers.

So it was all there for us to learn from, but no we decided on the same on steroids.
 
BREAKING:

Olaf Scholz to speak to the nation in 20 minutes after the German coalition government falls apart, with FDP leaving the government.
 
And there it is:

Olaf Scholz has dismissed his Minister of Finances, Christian Lindner, leader of the Liberals (FDP). He blames the Liberals for the failure of his government. The FDP is walking.

Scholz has had talks with opposition leader Friedrich Merz and has apparently secured his support for getting some laws through parliament till the year runs out, most notably more military aid, as Scholz has said he expects the re-elected Donald Trump will cut aid to Ukraine.

Scholz will ask for a vote of confidence on January 15, which he's going to lose.

Then it'll be interesting. The current Federal Diet's constitution has no easy way out there. The opposition would be huge after an election going by current polls, but it doesn't have the seats in the current Diet to elect a new Chancellor (without the votes from the right-wing extremist AfD, which everyone and their nan is shunning). So it'll be up to Scholz to go the Federal President and ask him to pronounce the Diet dissolved, which would leave us with general elections sometime around March.
 

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