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By the way, I'm not denying that there WERE soldiers of far-right Nazi persuasion in Azov regiment, especially foreign volunteers, especially in 2014. But since then, the unit cleaned up its act, and even Western media portray them as "Vikings". yes, and I have seen REAL pics of Azov and other units neo-Nazis. Some of them were killed by the Russians, and in this case, definitely good riddance.
 
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@diman make another topic with your opinion
in my opinion givi and motorola are the same like many of the azov members except that they are on another side
since 1945 anyone who is against russia is nazi , we know that , I am sick of this call , this topic is only about pictures
where is your post with the ukraine army pictures?

Agreed and Done

The Ukraine Photo topic was being polluted although the new topic is a valid one I think, so here it is in its new home

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Trust me guys, I've been assisting Ukrainian military since 2014, Russian media "picks" on Azov because from the get go it had considerable media presence. There were far worse units in terms of number of followers of extreme ideologies in Ukrainian military and "volunteer battalions", but these units were not numerous and didn't have any noticeable presence in the media.
 
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By the way, the unit founder, Andrei Bileckiy sits on Ukrainian - Israel parliament committee.
 
By the way, the unit founder, Andrei Bileckiy sits on Ukrainian - Israel parliament committee.

Ukraine’s Future Nazi Leader?
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Today’s Ukraine is painfully reminiscent of Germany in the 1920s: poor governance on the heels of a lost war, which – added to the sense of betrayed hopes and the sharp decline in average incomes coupled with rising prices – is all driving a critical mass of the Ukrainian population toward an overwhelming feeling of desperation. A demand from the public for a “strong hand” – a new, authoritarian ruler – is rapidly coalescing, due to their dissatisfaction with President Poroshenko and all the other jokers they’ve been dealt from that shabby deck of political cards.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrai...urce=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
 
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The Guardian 2018/mar/02
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Neo-Nazi groups recruit Britons to fight in Ukraine

Hope Not Hate watchdog says at least two men have travelled from UK to war-torn nation
Neo-Nazi groups involved in the fighting in Ukraine are actively seeking to recruit British far-right activists, a leading anti-fascist watchdog has warned.

At least two Britons are thought to have travelled to the war-torn eastern European country in recent months after encouragement by people linked to the Azov battalion, a notorious Ukrainian fascist militia, according to Hope Not Hate.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/neo-nazi-groups-recruit-britons-to-fight-in-ukraine
 
@snapper thanks for sorting this out while I was at work. Just got back and glad to see its all in order.
Regardless of the tensions I still find the topic interesting if not a little sensitive.
 
The Media is a powerful tool and can be used to deceive us all and make us think in a certain way, usually to suit the way the creator of an article, video or other wants us to think.
I am always skeptical of what I see and question almost everything.
We should bare that in mind when we make judgement s. In the discussion about WW3 we talked about cyber war and how that can manifest itself in a number of ways. Just a thought.
 
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is it worth mentioning here?
Well Bo*****S if I understand that, what a comment to make. Have you forgotten how your leaders made a pact with the devils you call Nazi's during WW2 and here you are professing your country to be the saints in all of this. Dont forget your history and don't forget how my country assisted you during that time, so your anti west sentiments fall on deaf ears. When a soldier is killed his family and a country mourns, you should remember that before you post your disgusting comments that dishonor his memory and his life.

Imagine if I posted that message in regards to a Russian Hero, you would have plenty to say about it.

Try and think beyond the propaganda your country sells you. This is not hate against your country comrade, you have a lot to be proud of and I remember the loss of your countrymen and Women during WW2. God rest their souls.
 
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Have you forgotten how your leaders made a pact with the devils you call Nazi's during WW2
you mean this agreement with the Nazis?
The Munich Agreement was a settlement permitting Nazi Germany's annexation of portions of Czechoslovakia along the country's borders mainly inhabited by German speakers, for which a new territorial designation, the "Sudetenland", was coined. The agreement was signed in the early hours of 30 September 1938 (but dated 29 September) after being negotiated at a conference held in Munich, Germany, among the major powers of Europe, excluding the Soviet Union
The help to my country was, and I am grateful for this, please see my posts on this forum.
you probably remember which country organized the first concentration camps in the
Second Boer War?
For you, propaganda is all that does not match your opinion
I do not consider my country to be a saint, and I admit that there were terrible mistakes
 
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On the sleeve of the soldiers of the battalion AZOV a symbol from Nazi Germany
they arrange night torchlight processions
during the procession they chant Glory of the nation - death to the enemies
this is their conscious choice
For me, they are Nazis for you patriots
Your right to think so
If my opinion is offended by someone's feelings, ask me to forgive
 
you mean this agreement with the Nazis?
The Munich Agreement was a settlement permitting Nazi Germany's annexation of portions of Czechoslovakia along the country's borders mainly inhabited by German speakers, for which a new territorial designation, the "Sudetenland", was coined. The agreement was signed in the early hours of 30 September 1938 (but dated 29 September) after being negotiated at a conference held in Munich, Germany, among the major powers of Europe, excluding the Soviet Union
The help to my country was, and I am grateful for this, please see my posts on this forum.
you probably remember which country organized the first concentration camps in the
Second Boer War?
For you, propaganda is all that does not match your opinion
I do not consider my country to be a saint, and I admit that there were terrible mistakes

The agreement @Pretorian is talking about is this one:

On August 23, 1939–shortly before World War II (1939-45) broke out in Europe–enemies Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union surprised the world by signing the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, in which the two countries agreed to take no military action against each other for the next 10 years. With Europe on the brink of another major war, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin (1879-1953) viewed the pact as a way to keep his nation on peaceful terms with Germany, while giving him time to build up the Soviet military. German chancellor Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) used the pact to make sure Germany was able to invade Poland unopposed. The pact also contained a secret agreement in which the Soviets and Germans agreed how they would later divide up Eastern Europe. The German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact fell apart in June 1941, when Nazi forces invaded the Soviet Union.
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/german-soviet-nonaggression-pact

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, also known as the Nazi–Soviet Pact, the German–Soviet Non-aggression Pact or the Nazi German–Soviet Pact of Aggression (officially: Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), was a neutrality pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed in Moscow on 23 August 1939 by foreign ministers Joachim von Ribbentrop and Vyacheslav Molotov, respectively. The pact was followed by the German-Soviet Commercial Agreement in February 1940.

The pact delineated the spheres of interest between the two powers, confirmed by the supplementary protocol of the German–Soviet Frontier Treaty amended after the joint invasion of Poland. It remained in force for nearly two years, until the German government of Adolf Hitler ended the pact by launching an attack on the Soviet positions in Eastern Poland during Operation Barbarossa on 22 June 1941.

The clauses of the Nazi-Soviet Pact provided a written guarantee of non-belligerence by each party towards the other, and a declared commitment that neither government would ally itself to, or aid, an enemy of the other party. In addition to stipulations of non-aggression, the treaty included a secret protocol that divided territories of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, and Romania into German and Soviet "spheres of influence", anticipating "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939. Soviet Union leader Joseph Stalin ordered the Soviet invasion of Poland on 17 September, one day after a Soviet-Japanese ceasefire at the Khalkhin Gol came into effect. In March 1940, parts of the Karelia and Salla regions in Finland were annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and parts of Romania (Bessarabia, Northern Bukovina, and the Hertza region). Advertised concern about ethnic Ukrainians and Belarusians had been proffered as justification for the Soviet invasion of Poland. Stalin's invasion of Bukovina in 1940 violated the pact, as it went beyond the Soviet sphere of influence agreed with the Axis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

In my humble opinion, there is enough guilt, blame and horror to go around many parties. Stalinism and Nazism while being at different ends of the spectrum, were failed ideologies that resulted in the murders of millions.
 
Mostly yes
But does that matter? those guys have not done any sort of serious war crimes as far as know, they are just group of armed guys defending their country who just politicly think other way.
I dunno, maybe because of my right wing views that fact does not bother me.
 
Okay guys, you beat me
There is no Nazism in Ukraine, the Azov regiment is not a Nazi.
As shown by Pretorian Nazis are those with whom the Azov Regiment is fighting
Azov's men were not accused of military or other crimes.
I'm sorry that I dared to challenge the only true opinion
Your opinion
 
there are nazi in ukraine , there are nazi in azov , there are nazi even in russia and there are nazi in usa . that"s for sure. but how many are trully nazi , how many understand what a nazi was and what they pretend to be in the present? if a soldier is cruel in the battlefield and doesen"t respect nothing , and he declare himself not a nazi , for me is worst than a guy who sit behind a computer and declare himself a nazi
btw: comunism was bad as nazim , a lot of russian regret communism , what to do with them?
 
Mostly yes
But does that matter? those guys have not done any sort of serious war crimes as far as know, they are just group of armed guys defending their country who just politicly think other way.
I dunno, maybe because of my right wing views that fact does not bother me.
In fact, even their existence, as organised military force (not only Azov, but also all other "volonteers" bandgroups) is criminal by the Ukrainian laws. Robbering, murders (including murders of peaceful civilians), rapes, tortures and many other are documented by Russian and Ukrainian officials. Next Ukrainian government will not need even accept new laws, to punish them - there enough even already existed laws.
 
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