Says everything about your knowledge of this region:)

Both Azeris and Armenians claim absolute historic ownership of the region, located within the boundaries of Azerbaijan but populated largely by Armenians. The latest flare-up of this long-standing conflict occurred toward the end of the Soviet period, when the autonomous region of Nagorno-Karabakh petitioned to become part of Armenia. Serious fighting erupted in 1991, and in the following two years Armenian forces not only gained control of Nagorno-Karabakh but also occupied almost 20 percent of Azerbaijani territory. The leaders of the Nagorno-Karabakh region have declared independence, though this status has not been recognized by any state.

Azerbaijan must contend with its position as “loser” in the Karabakh conflict; in addition to the thousands of casualties, about 20 percent of the country’s territory remains occupied.

Nagorno-Karabakh: Searching for a Solution
 
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Azeri with captured Armenian T72 tanks
 
Something disturbs to me to see those conscripts?/TA/NationalGuard/grunts being killed off like test subjects with those new weapons.

Me disturbs even more that neither side made POWs. Only dead bodies.

Captured Armenian T-72 tanks shown to public.

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Highly likely! :) same 3 Tanks, that were showed couple days ago. The Azeris painted the numbers with white paint over (except 614 on the turret of last tank)
 
Both Azeris and Armenians claim absolute historic ownership of the region, located within the boundaries of Azerbaijan but populated largely by Armenians. The latest flare-up of this long-standing conflict occurred toward the end of the Soviet period, when the autonomous region of Nagorno-Karabakh petitioned to become part of Armenia. Serious fighting erupted in 1991, and in the following two years Armenian forces not only gained control of Nagorno-Karabakh but also occupied almost 20 percent of Azerbaijani territory. The leaders of the Nagorno-Karabakh region have declared independence, though this status has not been recognized by any state.

Azerbaijan must contend with its position as “loser” in the Karabakh conflict; in addition to the thousands of casualties, about 20 percent of the country’s territory remains occupied.

Nagorno-Karabakh: Searching for a Solution

And now show me what Nogoro Karabath has to do with it.
 
Highly likely! :) same 3 Tanks, that were showed couple days ago. The Azeris painted the numbers with white paint over (except 614 on the turret of last tank)
same vehicles - I am wondering if they will be up for sale after they have finished ;) - or just absorb them in with their own equipment
 
And now show me what Nogoro Karabath has to do with it.

Formally, Nagorno Karabakh is a territory of Azerbaijan. Whether this is fair in historical context, whether Azerbaijan even needs it for its nascent state are separate questions, but for 30 years the so-called "peace process" went nowhere. Azerbaijan couldn't even recover lands lost to Armenia in that war that were never part of NK region. So, when diplomacy fails, arms have to do the talking.
 
same vehicles - I am wondering if they will be up for sale after they have finished ;) - or just absorb them in with their own equipment

Will be put in a museum as a "proof" of the "great military victory".
 
found it :), same 614 at min. 12:27, reported 03 Oct.
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Azerbaijan seems to be using drones supplied by Turkey and Israel.

Really dissapointed that the Israeli stance against Iran ends up in the supporting of people who want to wipe out the Christians in the region just because they get along with Iran.
 
Formally, Nagorno Karabakh is a territory of Azerbaijan. Whether this is fair in historical context, whether Azerbaijan even needs it for its nascent state are separate questions, but for 30 years the so-called "peace process" went nowhere. Azerbaijan couldn't even recover lands lost to Armenia in that war that were never part of NK region. So, when diplomacy fails, arms have to do the talking.
You miss the point, the guy jumped in with his nationalistic BS without even knowing the right name of this region:
Nogoro Karabath vs Nagorno-Karabakh
 
In my interpretation, Macron is trying to poop on Merkel's door, by showing the world that France is the actual leader of EU.
So he's jumping into every battlefield to create an impression of hectic French political activity in foreign relations, but when he sees he can't connect the said battlefield in any way to the EU politics or interests, he drops the call, and runs searching for something else.

But that's why this is interesting for me. Means EU is totally distancing itself from whatever will or won't happen in Nagorno-Karabakh. Or to be more exact, doesn't care what happens there.
I think EU would have been involved if it wanted. It doesn't have a horse in this race. Maybe if we could convince Mama Merkel she could get a few million refugees she might get out of bed for this.
Nogoro Karabath is Azeri Land not some Armenian BS claim... the one that start invade Azerbaijan is Armenia.. pls understand.. and now Russian is so quiet about Armenia conflict.. news said they keep tap with their counterpart Turkey.. maybe Russia thing is not a worthy things to involve in Armenia..
But if they declared independence same manner as Azerbaijan..., even before Kosovo was carved out by NATO out of Serbia so it could declare independence, surely the declaration has legitimacy? Even if NATO has no interest to acknowledge it?
 
Azerbaijan seems to be using drones supplied by Turkey and Israel.

Really dissapointed that the Israeli stance against Iran ends up in the supporting of people who want to wipe out the Christians in the region just because they get along with Iran.
Huh I thought the same thing, but it does go to show they will step over dead bodies to get what they want. And to ignore the similar historical suffering of genocide... this is a morality free zone.
 
Formally, Nagorno Karabakh is a territory of Azerbaijan. Whether this is fair in historical context, whether Azerbaijan even needs it for its nascent state are separate questions, but for 30 years the so-called "peace process" went nowhere. Azerbaijan couldn't even recover lands lost to Armenia in that war that were never part of NK region. So, when diplomacy fails, arms have to do the talking.


I agree with you. Little was done by Armenia to try to provide a more permanent solution to protect the Christians in Nagorno Karabakh.
 
Azerbaijan seems to be using drones supplied by Turkey and Israel.

Really dissapointed that the Israeli stance against Iran ends up in the supporting of people who want to wipe out the Christians in the region just because they get along with Iran.

Close ties between Azeris and Jews. A few days ago a high ranking official of the Russian Jewish Congress openly told Armenia to f***ck off. Israel wasn't the only state which supplied arms to Azerbaijan. Russia and Turkey sold way more, so, if Armenia has problems with Israel it should recall ambassador to Russia as well following the same logic.
 
Close ties between Azeris and Jews. A few days ago a high ranking official of the Russian Jewish Congress openly told Armenia to f***ck off. Israel wasn't the only state which supplied arms to Azerbaijan. Russia and Turkey sold way more, so, if Armenia has problems with Israel it should recall ambassador to Russia as well following the same logic.

Russians always play both sides...and one move from them (if they are not overstretched) and it will cool things down considerably.

I worry that Israel is taking this stance more because of Iran rather than for support of the Azeris.
 
Russia and Turkey sold way more, so, if Armenia has problems with Israel it should recall ambassador to Russia as well following the same logic.
Armenia getting russian military supplies for free or at russian inner prices, why should they?
 
Russians always play both sides...and one move from them (if they are not overstretched) and it will cool things down considerably.

I worry that Israel is taking this stance more because of Iran rather than for support of the Azeris.

Not because of Iran but because of historical ties and the fact that Israel get 40% of its oil from Azerbaijan. Although, the latter is no longer of strategic value for Israel because of the recent deal and de-facto close ties to every state in the Gulf.
 
Armenia getting russian military supplies for free or at russian inner prices, why should they?

It was about about Israel being singled out as an 'easy target" as opposed to a very long list of countries which were arming Azerbaijan for years.
 
And to be correct, the Beef is still between Azerbaijan and NKR, which even not recognized by Armenia it self.
 
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