Politics Anti-immigration demonstration in England

[NebrHogger]

Looks like people are really getting fed up with matters. (I'm not sure if this is the proper forum)

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[Jake84]

Politics, Crime, Terrorism & current Conflicts​

It does fit into this sub forum, good to go.

 

[Musashi]

There are multiple demonstrations across England (the North and the Midlands) and Northern Ireland.
There are regular battles between English nationalists and Asian communities.
Some hotels hosting illegal immigrants have been set on fire despite being protected by the police.
One of them was Holiday Inn in Tamworth, about 20 miles from the place I live in.

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[NebrHogger]

With such unrest over immigration, I'd think politicians promoting an anti-immigration policy will get a lot of votes. On a similar topic, with oil protestors blocking traffic and defacing works of art, greens may suffer.

 

[haze99]

My heart is heavy for the Brits...(be they English, Scot, Welch or Irish)

England Anti-Migration Rioters Storm 'Migrant Hotel' in Rotherham

Hundreds of people surrounded a believed migrant hotel in Rotherham, setting fire to the building and clashing with police.

www.breitbart.com

That your own govt. Is seeking to oppress you while encouraging these foreigners to run amok against you.
However! May you repent of any wickedness unto the Lord. That He may grant protection to your families and remove these reprobate 'leaders'.
Fret not! A Day is coming...
Revelation 20:11-15.

 

[Jake84]

 

[Ivan le Fou]

With such unrest over immigration, I'd think politicians promoting an anti-immigration policy will get a lot of votes. On a similar topic, with oil protestors blocking traffic and defacing works of art, greens may suffer.

No, the greens won't suffer.

That's just an illustration of the general hypocrisy from the leading class when it comes to dealing with the population's anger.
Just Stop Oil is fine, yes actions got recently taken against them, but that's only recently. Until now they were free to do whatever they wanted, and still are to this day, at least to some very broad extent.
Pro-Hamas demonstrations and riots? It's fiiiine.
BLM? Fiiiine.
Antifa? Chill.

And the anti-immigration parties won't get more votes, especially now that the PM and his government have threaten very harsh consequences, in a rather unprecedented response.

 

[Junglejim]

immigrants blamed for the country's woes...story as old as time. Wonder what the ruling class is trying to distract the gen pop from

 

[Bombardier]

Mass uncontrolled immigration has been the main catalyst for this unrest and our government are doing little or nothing about it.

Unfortunately all those involved are not focused on that one issue and many are using it as a reason behind their obvious racism and hate for Islam.

Other factors that only fuel the flames (as I see it) are things like cutting the winter fuel benefit for Old age pensioners, people I have spoken to get very angry because they are fully aware that illegal immigrants are provided all that they need including cash while our own citizens suffer.

I don't know the stats for crime committed by illegals but I can tell you that when they commit crime, the public jump on it as fast as a rat up a drain pipe, which only makes things worse.

I don't know how things are going to pan out here, but I don't see it stabilising soon.

Our Government are telling us that they will fight the gangs orchestrating illegal immigration, I doubt they will succeed, its a much bigger job than simply making it less attractive to come here.

Oh and folks this is a very emotive subject please lets keep it civil and respectful
Thank you

 

[Junglejim]

Mass uncontrolled immigration has been the main catalyst for this unrest and our government are doing little or nothing about it.

Unfortunately all those involved are not focused on that one issue and many are using it as a reason behind their obvious racism and hate for Islam.

Other factors that only fuel the flames (as I see it) are things like cutting the winter fuel benefit for Old age pensioners, people I have spoken to get very angry because they are fully aware that illegal immigrants are provided all that they need including cash while our own citizens suffer.

I don't know the stats for crime committed by illegals but I can tell you that when they commit crime, the public jump on it as fast as a rat up a drain pipe, which only makes things worse.

I don't know how things are going to pan out here, but I don't see it stabilising soon.

Our Government are telling us that they will fight the gangs orchestrating illegal immigration, I doubt they will succeed, its a much bigger job than simply making it less attractive to come here.

Oh and folks this is a very emotive subject please lets keep it civil and respectful
Thank you

"Gangs orchestrating illegal immigration" now why would the government fight itself. Isnt it the government policies that allowed these situations in the first place? Try to look deeper into what they are hiding from the citizens? It could be as simple as their "brexit" idea back firing or the fact that they allowed the once shinning star of British industries wane, in exchange for money at the sacrifice of the British populance?


Maybe Im just a third worlder and have a very biased view of anybody that wants to be in or into politics. What most populations are given is the "false promise of institutions" and the "illusions of choice" the the powers that be.

Anti immigration is a low bearing fruit that is very easy to execute and can be plucked at any given time. Because the "not one of us" syndrome is very much in our core

 

[downsizer]

people I have spoken to get very angry because they are fully aware that illegal immigrants are provided all that they need including cash while our own citizens suffer.

Not strictly true though mate, illegal migrants don't get access to the benefits system and Asylum seekers only get about £49pp per week, good luck living on that. https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/

 

[Bombardier]

Not strictly true though mate, illegal migrants don't get access to the benefits system and Asylum seekers only get about £49pp per week, good luck living on that. https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/

I will take a read but I think the point I was trying to make is, they believe the money they are giving them could go to pensioners instead

 

[downsizer]

I will take a read but I think the point I was trying to make is, they believe the money they are giving them could go to pensioners instead

Fair enough mate, I don't disgree with that take, just pointing out that unlike a lot of publicity and spin, illegal migrants and asy seekers aren't being given oodles of cash.

There is of course a sunk cost of housing them etc.

 

[PEMM]

Anti immigration is a low bearing fruit that is very easy to execute and can be plucked at any given time. Because the "not one of us" syndrome is very much in our core

Immigrant groups have real differences.

Some have higher employment than natives, others lead sexual crime statistics (In Finland foreign nationals commit 37% of such crime, being less than 8% of population.)

These kind of things anger people, especially of those committing such crime are here for "asylum".

 

[OldGuy]

Not strictly true though mate, illegal migrants don't get access to the benefits system and Asylum seekers only get about £49pp per week, good luck living on that. https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/

Lately here in the US they have been handing out 20,000 cash US dollars to people who have no business even being here period. We'll be happy to see all these thieves in our government finally removed in a few months, it won't just be the Presidency but other major positions all throughout the government.

 

[Junglejim]

Immigrant groups have real differences.

Some have higher employment than natives, others lead sexual crime statistics (In Finland foreign nationals commit 37% of such crime, being less than 8% of population.)

These kind of things anger people, especially of those committing such crime are here for "asylum".

I wont deny that statistics, but that is exactly, what they are there for. To serve as a distraction.

Lately here in the US they have been handing out 20,000 cash US dollars to people who have no business even being here period. We'll be happy to see all these thieves in our government finally removed in a few months, it won't just be the Presidency but other major positions all throughout the government.

Im not as optimistic, evertime a democrat or republican talks about change. I am reminded of the picture of Bush and Obamas wife having a good time together. Even trump mentioned about the rigged system to cater to their kind and using it in the debate against Clinton. But just because an Axe have a wooden handle, it doesnt mean he serves the interest of the forest.

What I see is governments allowing the flow of immigrants, tuggng at the bleeding hearts to get the approval. They want the flow of immigrants to serve as a catalyst to distract the general population from what the ruling class is actually doing. The egyptans have done it, the Romans have done it.

People have a limited capacity to focus their anger an attention on... so say a failed policy in brexit, the multiple corruption scanadal by the MPs, failing industry, all major issues, but a bit distant to most people. However, if we give them immigrants, aliens so to speak that are stealing their jobs, benefits and women... most will ignore the part about failing economy or epsteins island list of guests.

 

[PEMM]

I wont deny that statistics, but that is exactly, what they are there for. To serve as a distraction.

I'm not so sure, I think they are there to fill in the aging population.

The real distraction are these woke-wars. They are distracting from the actual problems such as issues with the econom.

 

[OldGuy]

I wont deny that statistics, but that is exactly, what they are there for. To serve as a distraction.

Im not as optimistic, evertime a democrat or republican talks about change. I am reminded of the picture of Bush and Obamas wife having a good time together. Even trump mentioned about the rigged system to cater to their kind and using it in the debate against Clinton. But just because an Axe have a wooden handle, it doesnt mean he serves the interest of the forest.

What I see is governments allowing the flow of immigrants, tuggng at the bleeding hearts to get the approval. They want the flow of immigrants to serve as a catalyst to distract the general population from what the ruling class is actually doing. The egyptans have done it, the Romans have done it.

People have a limited capacity to focus their anger an attention on... so say a failed policy in brexit, the multiple corruption scanadal by the MPs, failing industry, all major issues, but a bit distant to most people. However, if we give them immigrants, aliens so to speak that are stealing their jobs, benefits and women... most will ignore the part about failing economy or epsteins island list of guests

Here "They" are referred to as Democrats. For decades the registered democrat rolls was in decline due to such dumb things they have done over the decades. Around 1970 they started allowing a massive crossing of our southern borders and they turned an eye the other direction. It was encouraged and today in Houston you have a 4 million population all descendants of this massive invasion. The city is now another exact image of San Antonio Tx and El Paso. The illegals have totally changed the entire landscape of America in voting and changing our culture of the large cities. The main insult has been we are forced to pay them while they steal our country. They made it law to automatically give citizenship to any newborn regardless that their parents are illegals unlawfully being here.

Once again we are forced to pay the birthing bills. Your description of change is totally wrong, we have no ruling class in the US, we have corrupt stay forever thieves called politicians. We have rich people like every other Nation but they are not ruling class. I would say at least half of the nation are conservative, a good portion of the other half on the other side or liberal side are illegals voting illegally. We know who they are and the destruction they are causing. Even in cities like Houston they have two sets of laws for illegals and for citizens. In property ownership and other business areas they pretty much live like they did across the border. It is a big mess and could be cleaned up to some extent just removing this last 4 years worth of illegals. They are mostly eligible age males that were kicked out of their host countries and prisons, they are already killing and murdering citizens mostly young women. When I say eligible males I mean able to carry a gun and terrorize.

 

[Bombardier]

A real fear here amongst the population is that the UK is being invaded by Islam (in plain sight) and they will soon be in charge imposing there Sharia Law and their cultural beliefs, effectively removing our own culture . I am not saying I believe that, just that people do and that is a recipe for disaster I am afraid.

 

[Junglejim]

Here "They" are referred to as Democrats. For decades the registered democrat rolls was in decline due to such dumb things they have done over the decades. Around 1970 they started allowing a massive crossing of our southern borders and they turned an eye the other direction. It was encouraged and today in Houston you have a 4 million population all descendants of this massive invasion. The city is now another exact image of San Antonio Tx and El Paso. The illegals have totally changed the entire landscape of America in voting and changing our culture of the large cities. The main insult has been we are forced to pay them while they steal our country. They made it law to automatically give citizenship to any newborn regardless that their parents are illegals unlawfully being here.

Once again we are forced to pay the birthing bills. Your description of change is totally wrong, we have no ruling class in the US, we have corrupt stay forever thieves called politicians. We have rich people like every other Nation but they are not ruling class. I would say at least half of the nation are conservative, a good portion of the other half on the other side or liberal side are illegals voting illegally. We know who they are and the destruction they are causing. Even in cities like Houston they have two sets of laws for illegals and for citizens. In property ownership and other business areas they pretty much live like they did across the border. It is a big mess and could be cleaned up to some extent just removing this last 4 years worth of illegals. They are mostly eligible age males that were kicked out of their host countries and prisons, they are already killing and murdering citizens mostly young women. When I say eligible males I mean able to carry a gun and terrorize.

You have no ruling class? So you dont believe the mega corporations in the US has no control or say in creating policies that affect your lives? You mentioned it yourself "corrupt stay forever politicians." Who do you think put them there? Look at the money trail from election support all the way to their policies and what they are protecting. How many elections have you had that was stolen from the people by the "electoral college?" It's 5. Now do you really think that was all just sheer luck or by design?

In Marxist ideology, the ruling class are the ones that own the most propeties and means of production, through that they control everything from from culture, norms and ideologies of a nation.

Look at your media and how the major corporations are acting with impunity... you have a ruling class.

The Philippines was pretty much set up by the US, based on how America runs things. Last presidential election I saw first hand what our ruling class was and more so who they are. They impact everything with their assets and influence so that their control stays no matter who wins. It's as simple as telling their corporate pilots to fly thi politician to these places, using company assets so he can campaign there.

They were also ruthless, if they see that in their surveys that this "politician/pawn" is not a sure win, they lose their support and assets in the middle of a campaign. Yes, he would be campaigning and in front of him see the helos of his campaign, take off and fly off into the horizon.

A real fear here amongst the population is that the UK is being invaded by Islam (in plain sight) and they will soon be in charge imposing there Sharia Law and their cultural beliefs, effectively removing our own culture . I am not saying I believe that, just that people do and that is a recipe for disaster I am afraid.

Do you really think your government will allow that to happen? Lets be real

Now a question for most of you, have you actually seen first hand all these accusations of these "immigrants agendas?" Or actually felt the impact of these illegals personaly? Or would you say the soaring housing prices has a more impact with you?