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And btw those dead people laying along the street in Bucha were killed by Ukrainian artillery as well. The shell craters are clearly visible on the video on 0:04 and 0:44.
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I say we keep him and feed him a little
Reminds us of what Russia stands for.
EDIT: and he reminds us that most people backing Russia are also morons.
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Destruction, well yes of course. But to whom exactly? What are the russians going to do about it? Get their teeth kicked in by the finns as well?
Russia warns Finland will be asking for 'destruction' by joining NATO
The Nordic country has been flirting with becoming a member of the transatlantic military alliance, with foreign minister Pekka Haavisto today saying its position will soon be clarified.www.dailymail.co.uk
De-nazification? Liberation? Well why not? There are some historical inaccuracies still in play after ww2.
Here's a little something to think for the guys wanting to draw some lines on the map:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Not only you got militarily assf*cked in the Ukr, got your international status reduced to NorKor levels, but as a special victory day present you will get a new 1500km set of NATO border right where it hurts. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Not only you got militarily assf*cked in the Ukr, got your international status reduced to NorKor levels, but as a special victory day present you will get a new 1500km set of NATO border right where it hurts. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Jokes aside, there is no other option than NATO. All the good will and trust towards russia and it's intentions has been irrereversibly lost for decades to come. So far they've only bring threaths to the equation whilst attacking an another neutral neighbouring country. The message is clear: "You're next, unless". Well tough luck Vladi-boy, the finns are not going to idly wait for their turn.
The finnish pm put it nicely yesterday when asked about how Finland is going to keep in mind some of the 30 yrs old treaties of understanding between FIN and RUS: " At this time and situation, (with) by no means at all."
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Ukrainians hit central Donetsk with Tochka several weeks ago resulting in multiple casualties among civilians. But its still perfectly fine to support Ukraine right? What kind of logic is that?
But I admit what happened in Kramatorsk is F***ed up. Whoever done it...
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*Essen still seems alive and well, despite claims of "numerous Neptune" strikes*
More on the Tochka-U that hit Kramatosk:
Appears to have either been intercepted or malfunctioned. A Tochka usually impacts the target as a whole. For reference, here is what a crater left by a Tochka-U looks like:
Regarding how the Tochka works, the missile's "combat unit" (payload/nose cone) does not separate in flight. It is a single stage system.
So, what could lead to suggest that Tochka-U got shot down.
First we could start by remembering the events of Donetsk where a downed Tochka-U crashed and caused significant civilian casualties.
Wether the warhead detonates or not, it still remains a 1t5 rocket-propelled metallic object falling from the sky. If it hits the ground shrapnel will be produced.
The Tochka (no matter if it is a "U" or not) is a single stage system. If it is set to hit a target, the whole thing will hit the target. If it is set for airbust, the entire thing will detonate up in the air.
The fact the booster part remains, all things considered, intact suggests it missile didn't crash as it should have if it had been on its terminal trajectory.
The fact there are no submunition impacts or craters could also suggest the casualties were the result of flying debris and shrapnel.
Payload fitted on a Tchoka:
-Nuclear (AA-60/AA-86/AA-92). We can rule these out.
-9H123F (500kh HE). We can rule that one out as well.
-9H123K (shrapnel submunition).
The 9H123K carries fifty OBE 9N24 submunitions (1kg45 of explosive) able to cover an area of 3,5 to 7ha.
Results of a submunition bombardment are fairly unmistakable, especially when there are trees around. None of which are visible in this situation.
Two have been claimed to have been launched though. One of them has been documented with the pictures above, but there are not traces/reports of the other one, as of now that is.
The position of the wreck also suggests it came from the south west, which is under Ukrainian control.
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Might look like it was the DNR/LNR guys that did this. The terminology "For the children" is part of their narrative, revenge for the children of Donbass. Tochka was used which I would presume they would be more likely to fire than the regular Russian army.
And I don't know how legit these posts are, but there is an alleged post from pro-Russian Telegram claiming that gathering place for soldiers was hit before it was known that civilians were hit and a post from this morning showing rockets fired from Shakhtarsk area.
And I don't know how legit these posts are, but there is an alleged post from pro-Russian Telegram claiming that gathering place for soldiers was hit before it was known that civilians were hit and a post from this morning showing rockets fired from Shakhtarsk area.
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No
DPR admitted it was shot down by their forces and not meant for the town.
Please stay.
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Which one? Kramatorsk or Donetsk?
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The Donetsk one of course! Why would DPR shoot down a missile outbound and not even flying over their fiefdom?
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More than 7,000 Russian soldiers' bodies are in Ukrainian morgues
Oleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the head of Ukraine's presidential administration, said they tried to return the bodies of 3,000 troops early on in the war but Russia refused.
Looks like the Ruskis don't want their dead back
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Ukraine-Russia war: Tochka-U rocket shot down over Donetsk; 20 killed, 9 wounded
On Monday, March 14, Tochka-U tactical missile system was fired at Donetsk by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, killing 20 people and injuring 9 others.
www.republicworld.com
And it kinda makes sense. If they wanted to inflict maximum civilian casualties on Donetsk, the Ukrainians can do that with conventional artillery or MRLs since the city is very well within range. They do not need to waste precious few Tochkas for that.
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From an account with sufficient moronic terms you can understand.
Note. It was posted on this very thread.
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And that' s a wrap people! No further investigation needed.
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