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			<title>The Battle of Loos - 1915</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>The Battle of Loos formed a part of the wider Artois-Loos Offensive conducted by the French and British in autumn 1915, sometimes referred to as the Second Battle of Artois. 
The Artois campaigns comprised the major Allied offensive on the Western Front in 1915. 
Along with the attack against Loos...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The Battle of Loos formed a part of the wider Artois-Loos Offensive conducted by the French and British in autumn 1915, sometimes referred to as the Second Battle of Artois.<br />
The Artois campaigns comprised the major Allied offensive on the Western Front in 1915.<br />
Along with the attack against Loos by the British, French troops launched offensives at Champagne (the Second Battle of Champagne), and at Vimy Ridge in Arras. The French and British High Command, notably French Commander-in-Chief <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/forums/../bio/joffre.htm" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Joseph Joffre</font></a>, relied upon numerical supremacy - 3 to 1 in favour of the French at Champagne - to overpower the Germans.<br />
The Loos offensive began on 25 September following a four day artillery bombardment in which 250,000 shells were fired, and was called off in failure on 28 September. Presided over by <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/forums/../bio/haig.htm" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Douglas Haig</font></a>, the British committed six divisions to the attack. Haig was persuaded to launch the Loos offensive despite serious misgivings.<br />
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Read more:<br />
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<a href="http://www.firstworldwar.com/battles/loos.htm" target="_blank">http://www.firstworldwar.com/battles/loos.htm</a><br />
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Commonwealth War Graves Commission:<br />
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<a href="http://www.cwgc.org/admin/files/Loos.pdf" target="_blank"><font color="#800080">http://www.cwgc.org/admin/files/Loos.pdf</font></a><br />
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<b>Paul Reed</b>, military historian, author and battlefield guide, has contributed the following on WW1: <br />
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<a href="http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/" target="_blank">http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/</a><br />
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Photos:<br />
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<a href="http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/loos_photos.htm" target="_blank">http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/loos_photos.htm</a><br />
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Maps:<br />
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<a href="http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/loos_maps.htm" target="_blank">http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/loos_maps.htm</a></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[My Boy Jack - film about author Kipling's son]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:25:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I just finished watching this film about Lieutenant John Kipling. It's very moving and shows Rudyard Kipling's son as very patriotic and a great example to the men under his command. 
  
Also, have a read about some more of the factual errors (see Goofs) portrayed in the film, according to the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I just finished watching this film about Lieutenant John Kipling. It's very moving and shows Rudyard Kipling's son as very patriotic and a great example to the men under his command.<br />
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Also, have a read about some more of the factual errors (see Goofs) portrayed in the film, according to the following website - very interesting:<br />
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<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851430/" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851430/</a><br />
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&quot;In the movie the soldiers are taught to fire the Lee-Enfield rifle using their index finger on the trigger. This is incorrect. Guards regiments in the early part of the war were taught to fire 20 aimed rounds per minute. This fast rate of fire was achieved by virtue of the close proximity of the bolt mechanism and the trigger mechanism on the .303 Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle. Soldiers in Guards regiments were trained (like the Old Contemptibles) to fire the Lee-Enfield using the middle finger to fire the weapon while the index finger and thumb worked the bolt. The index finger and thumb would keep hold of the bolt THROUGHOUT the firing procedure, thus speeding up the rate of fire considerably. In the movie soldiers are clearly shown releasing the bolt on every shot in order to use the index finger to fire the weapon.&quot;<br />
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<b>Extract from National Archives website:</b><br />
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<a href="http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=First_World_War_Poets#John_Kipling" target="_blank">http://yourarchives.nationalarchives...s#John_Kipling</a><br />
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<u><b>John Kipling:</b></u><br />
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Son of the Nobel Prize for Literature winner, <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/index.php?title=Kipling%2C_Rudyard_%281865-1936%29%2C_author" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Rudyard Kipling</font></a>, Lt. John Kipling was commissioned into the Irish Guards at the outbreak of war despite being very short sighted. <br />
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He died on 27th September 1915, the 2nd day of his posting to the front, at the Batttle of Loos. He was 18 years old. <br />
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Contemporary reports relate that he was last seen wandering the battlefield, disorientated, suffering from fatal facial wounds. His body was not recovered. <br />
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Rudyard Kipling's eulogy to his missing son, 'My Boy Jack' was written in late 1915. <br />
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Initially John Kipling was commemorated on a panel of the Loos War memorial at Dud Corner Cemetery, along with <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/index.php?title=Charles_Hamilton_Sorley&amp;action=edit" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Charles Hamilton Sorley</font></a> and Fergus Bowes-Lyon, brother of the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother. <br />
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In 1992 the Commonwealth War Graves Commission identified a grave in St Mary's A.D.S Cemetery at Haisnes as containing the body of John Kipling. This identification was subsequently challenged by Tonie and Valmai Holt (and others). John Kipling's name remains on the Loos memorial to the missing. <br />
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See National Archives website for the following: <br />
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John Kipling's service record : <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/index.php?title=WO_339/53917" target="_blank">WO 339/53917</a> <br />
War diary of 2nd Battalion Irish Guards : <a href="http://www.militaryimages.net/index.php?title=WO_95/1220" target="_blank">WO 95/1220</a><br />
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Picture of his assumed grave, and pictures of Lieut John Kipling:<br />
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<a href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=12868925" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&amp;GRid=12868925</a></div>

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			<title>Rudyard Kipling: My Boy Jack</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:03:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA['My Boy Jack'  
Image: http://www.kipling.org.uk/pix/spacer_bigger.jpg 1914-18  
 
 
"HAVE you news of my boy Jack? " 
Not this tide. 
"When d'you think that he'll come back?"  
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.  
"Has any one else had word of him?" 
Not this tide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="+2"><font color="red">'My Boy Jack' </font></font></font><br />
<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="+1"><font color="black"><img src="http://www.kipling.org.uk/pix/spacer_bigger.jpg" border="0" alt="" />1914-18 <br />
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<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="+1">&quot;HAVE you news of my boy Jack? &quot;<br />
<i>Not this tide.</i><br />
&quot;When d'you think that he'll come back?&quot; <br />
<i>Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.</i> <br />
&quot;Has any one else had word of him?&quot;<br />
<i>Not this tide. <br />
For what is sunk will hardly swim, <br />
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.</i> <br />
&quot;Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?&quot; <br />
<i>None this tide,<br />
Nor any tide,<br />
Except he did not shame his kind--- <br />
Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide. <br />
Then hold your head up all the more,<br />
This tide,<br />
And every tide;<br />
Because he was the son you bore,<br />
And gave to that wind blowing and that tide. </i><br />
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			<title>Hello from Belvedere</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:08:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi 
  
I'm the author of Royal Artillery Glossary of Terms and Abbreviations Historical and Modern and also Secretary of the Friends of Firepower the Royl Artillery Museum in Woolwich. 
  
I'm always happy to try and help with terms or abbreviation queries, or to hear of new (or old) terms I...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi<br />
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I'm the author of Royal Artillery Glossary of Terms and Abbreviations Historical and Modern and also Secretary of the Friends of Firepower the Royl Artillery Museum in Woolwich.<br />
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I'm always happy to try and help with terms or abbreviation queries, or to hear of new (or old) terms I haven't found before.<br />
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Phil</div>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:53:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I want to build a new system, and I was wondering just what the differences between a sever processor and a desktop processor are. Would I see gaming performance decrease by using a Quad Server Core or a Quad Desktop Core? 
I wanted to build a dual socket server core and have 8 physical cores. 
...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I want to build a new system, and I was wondering just what the differences between a sever processor and a desktop processor are. Would I see gaming performance decrease by using a Quad Server Core or a Quad Desktop Core?<br />
I wanted to build a dual socket server core and have 8 physical cores.<br />
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Thoughts?</div>

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			<title>An Early Christmas Greeting !</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:10:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>An early Non Denominational / Non Commercial / Politically Correct Christmas Greeting to all my Friends. 
 
Enjoy. 
 
Mike 
  
http://www.aroundmd.com/whitechristmas/</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>An early Non Denominational / Non Commercial / Politically Correct Christmas Greeting to all my Friends.<br />
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Enjoy.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<a href="http://www.aroundmd.com/whitechristmas/" target="_blank">http://www.aroundmd.com/whitechristmas/</a></div>

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			<title>Military Funeral</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:18:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Image: http://exposureroom.com/getassetthumbnailimage.aspx?id=faf17ed41fa2402f9ffbd74d673a4509&size=sm   (http://exposureroom.com/members/G8RB8R.aspx/assets/faf17ed41fa2402f9ffbd74d673a4509/) 
  
*When a loved one passes away, it seems that the one word that comes to mind more often than any other,...]]></description>
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<b>When a loved one passes away, it seems that the one word that comes to mind more often than any other, is regret. And, in the case of my father, I truly regret that I do not have more of his life on film or video. I will always have the memories of experiences shared, but as time moves forward, the nature of the human brain is to retain less and less of that precious information. The details of events shared become fuzzy and dim with age. That is the sole purpose of this video. Not so much to commemorate specific events of my father's life, but to remember him as the unique individual that he was. This video montage is my way of remembering my dad and forever keeping his memory alive.</b></div>

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			<dc:creator>Capt. Cheatham</dc:creator>
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			<title>Operation:  PileDriver</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Image: http://exposureroom.com/getassetthumbnailimage.aspx?id=a07ab857ca6c4520bf1ca7d58986a4b9&size=sm   (http://exposureroom.com/members/G8RB8R.aspx/assets/a07ab857ca6c4520bf1ca7d58986a4b9/)* 
  
*A short video that I have re-edited. The video is about the role that this one US Navy Seabee...]]></description>
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<b>A short video that I have re-edited. The video is about the role that this one US Navy Seabee Battalion has played during its tour of Iraq. Instead of building things, there mission was changed to that of Convoy Protection - an extrememly hazardous and vulnerable mission. My cousin's son <i>Adam Dueer</i> was a member of this outfit.</b></div>

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			<dc:creator>Capt. Cheatham</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Veteran's Day Tribute 2009]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:23:34 GMT</pubDate>
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*My latest video that I made for Veteran's Day this year.*]]></description>
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<b>My latest video that I made for Veteran's Day this year.</b></div>

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			<dc:creator>Capt. Cheatham</dc:creator>
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			<title>Down to 3 subs</title>
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			<description>Deterrent cannot be guaranteed with three subs, says Navy chief  
 
It would be possible to get by with three submarines, provided the Government was prepared to risk breaking the 24-hour, 365-day patrol cycle that had been maintained for 41 years. Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope said that Gordon Brown...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Deterrent cannot be guaranteed with three subs, says Navy chief <br />
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It would be possible to get by with three submarines, provided the Government was prepared to risk breaking the 24-hour, 365-day patrol cycle that had been maintained for 41 years. Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope said that Gordon Brown had posed a perfectly legitimate question when, in planning for Trident’s replacement, he asked the Navy to study whether the nuclear deterrent patrols could be fulfilled with three boats. <br />
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The Government announced in 2006 that it planned to replace the four-boat ballistic-missile Vanguard class boats with a new submarine system and an upgraded Trident being developed in the US. The programme, with four new boats, would cost £20 billion, and the first submarine has to be ready for service in 2024. <br />
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Admiral Stanhope said that in response to the Prime Minister’s question, posed this year, the Royal Navy was examining whether it would be feasible to rely on three submarines. At any one time one of the boats would be in refit and another would be coming out of or preparing for refit, leaving just one submarine available for operational service, he warned. <br />
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“If there were to be a major incident on board, such as a fire, this could cause the continuous patrol cycle to be broken,” Admiral Stanhope said. <br />
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The First Sea Lord and the other two Service chiefs will be playing a significant role in the defence review to take place after the general election, and work is already under way on the broad objectives. <br />
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Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, the Chief of the Defence Staff, has told the Ministry of Defence staff that “support for operations in Afghanistan is now the main effort for defence”. <br />
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While agreeing that Afghanistan had to take priority, Admiral Stanhope warned that it should not be the focus of all planning. “When Afghanistan is consigned to the history books there will still be a whole lot of different issues in the future which we will have to deal with, such as the security aspects arising from climate change and energy supplies, and 95 per cent of Britain’s trade goes by sea,” he said. Britain also had 14 dependent territories that required security guarantees. <br />
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Conscious of the different requirements of the three Services, he said his fellow chiefs agreed that the building of two large aircraft carriers would have multiple uses for the future, although, he admitted, “resources are going to be extremely tight”. <br />
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If Britain wished to retain an interventionist role in the world, the carriers, which he said would be 64,000 tonnes, would provide a platform for ground-attack aircraft, helicopters, air defence assets and unmanned aerial vehicles (reconnaissance drones). They would also have hospital facilities. <br />
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Admiral Stanhope acknowledged that the Army and the RAF might have slightly different priorities when limited resources were shared out. <br />
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The Government, he said, was committed to building two aircraft carriers, and it made little sense to start talking about scaling them down to smaller ships. He dismissed a report that one of the carriers might be switched to a helicopter carrier, instead of having the Joint Strike Fighter F35, the replacement for Harriers. “We can put more helicopters on the platform if we want but we will not be converting one of the 64,000-tonne carriers into a helicopter carrier,” he said. <br />
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The admiral said that the £4 billion carrier programme involved 10,000 workers and 57 British companies. He also pointed out that a considerable amount (about £1 billion) had already been spent on the two ships which will be called HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales. The two carriers which would be around for 40 years, represented “a good investment”. <br />
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He also underlined the multiple roles to be played by the fleet of Astute class nuclear-powered submarines, the first of which set sail yesterday from Barrow-in-Furness for sea trials. <br />
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Admiral Stanhope regretted that the Astute programme was four years late, but he said this was because Britain had stopped building submarines for a period, and the skills had had to be rediscovered. <br />
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Astute decision <br />
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• The Royal Navy is to be given seven Astute-class submarines, although the defence review next year might lead to a scaling back of this capability. The Navy was initially promised eight vessels <br />
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• Measuring nearly 328ft (100m) from bow to stern, HMS Astute is longer than ten London buses, and will be able to circumnavigate the globe while submerged <br />
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• Two aircraft carriers cost £4 billion. A new Trident costs £20 billion <br />
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• Navy chiefs get upset when the campaign in Afghanistan is described as an army operation: 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines, part of the Royal Navy, has served two six-month tours</div>

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			<dc:creator>John A Silkstone</dc:creator>
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			<title>Desert Veteran Search Website</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello to All.  
welc. 
I would like to invite everyone to visit the Desert Veteran Search (www.desertveteransearch.com (http://www.desertveteransearch.com)) website. I've created a Photo Gallery of more than 100 pictures taken during DS/DS, 1990-91.  
At this time I am actively searching for anyone...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello to All. <br />
welc.<br />
I would like to invite everyone to visit the Desert Veteran Search (<a href="http://www.desertveteransearch.com" target="_blank">www.desertveteransearch.com</a>) website. I've created a Photo Gallery of more than 100 pictures taken during DS/DS, 1990-91. <br />
At this time I am actively searching for anyone who has any knowledge of our coilition military convoys comming under small arms fire from &quot;un-known/un-friendlies&quot; during late December 1990, or early January 1991, before the start of the main air/ground offensive. I am also seeking any additional documentation (in the form of a notorized letter of support) from any individual who would be willing to do so.<br />
All the letters of support and photographs, posted on this webpage, can be enlarged, downloaded and printed out for easier viewing by clicking on each page or photo individualy. <br />
Anyone with any information in this regard are asked to please contact me through the information provided on the Desert Veteran Search webpage. Your assistance in this matter will be greatly appreciated. <br />
Thank you.<br />
 <br />
EO-3 George Kernaghan, USN<br />
Alfa Co. NMCB-24 20th. NCR<br />
Seabee's<br />
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			<dc:creator>Seabee</dc:creator>
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			<title>Soldiers told to bribe</title>
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British forces should buy off potential Taleban recruits with “bags of gold”, according to a new army field manual published yesterday.  
 
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British forces should buy off potential Taleban recruits with “bags of gold”, according to a new army field manual published yesterday. <br />
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Army commanders should also talk to insurgent leaders with “blood on their hands” in order to hasten the end of the conflict in Afghanistan. <br />
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The edicts, which are contained in rewritten counter-insurgency guidelines, will be taught to all new army officers. They mark a strategic rethink after three years in which British and Nato forces have failed to defeat the Taleban. The manual is also a recognition that the Army’s previous doctrine for success against insurgents, which was based on the experience in Northern Ireland, is now out of date. <br />
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The new instructions came on the day that Gordon Brown went farther than before in setting out Britain’s exit strategy from Afghanistan. The Prime Minister stated explicitly last night that he wanted troops to begin handing over districts to Afghan authorities during next year — a general election year in Britain. <br />
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Addressing the issue of paying off the locals, the new manual states that army commanders should give away enough money to dissuade them from joining the enemy. The Taleban is known to pay about $10 (£5.95) a day to recruit local fighters. <br />
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Major-General Paul Newton said: “The best weapons to counter insurgents don’t shoot. In other words, use bags of gold in the short term to change the security dynamics. But you don’t just chuck gold at them, this has to be done wisely.” <br />
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British commanders in Afghanistan and Iraq have complained that their access to money on the battlefield — cash rather than literal gold — compares poorly with their US counterparts. <br />
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Adam Holloway, a former army officer and the Tory MP for Gravesham in Kent, said that the idea was a matter of “shutting the door after the horse has bolted”. He added: “I know that a number of generals thought in 2006 that, rather than send a British brigade to Helmand, they should buy off people in the tribal areas. Now it’s too late.” <br />
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Mr Brown told the Lord Mayor’s Banquet at Guildhall in the City last night that a summit of Nato allies would be held in London in January, which could set a timetable for the transfer of security control to the Afghans starting in 2010. Military sources said that the first areas to be involved would probably be in the north and west of Afghanistan — not in Helmand in the south, where British troops are based. <br />
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The counter-insurgency field manual also highlights the importance of talking to the enemy. “There’s no point in talking to people who don’t have blood on their hands,” General Newton said, launching the document in London. <br />
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Britain’s early experience of handing out cash in Afghanistan proved abortive. About £16 million in cash was given to farmers to stop them growing poppy crops for the heroin trade, which helps to fund the Taleban. The money is believed to have had little impact on the opium yields. <br />
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The manual says that money can be the answer, if it is prudently distributed. “Properly spent within a context of longer-term planning, money offers a cost-effective means for pulling community support away from the insurgents and provides the military with a much-needed economy of force <br />
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measure,” it says. “Unemployed and under-employed military-aged males typically provide the richest vein from which insurgents recruit ‘foot soldiers’. Short-term, labour-intensive projects are therefore the best way to disrupt such recruiting.” <br />
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“The counter-insurgent should be careful not to be over-generous since this will distort local economic and social activity and may lead to unproductive dependency.” <br />
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The positive impact of military units going into battle with bags of cash at their disposal is underlined in the manual by the experience of a top British commander who served in Iraq. “The hoops that I had to jump through to get the very few UK pounds that were available were . . . amazing; the American divisional commanders were resourced and empowered in ways that we could only dream of,” he says. <br />
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“UK commanders on recent operations have not had quick access to the same levels of cash as . . . their US counterparts,” the manual says. “Where possible, mission command should apply to money as much as any other weapon or enabling system.” <br />
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It is more than eight years since the Army last published a counter-insurgency doctrine, when the main lessons contained in it arose from operations in Northern Ireland and the Balkans. <br />
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General Newton, Assistant Chief of Defence Staff Development Concepts and Doctrine, said that new ideas were needed to cope with the media-savvy insurgents who are fighting in Afghanistan and that there was no place for arrogance on the part of the British military hierarchy, relying on their experience of past campaigns. <br />
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The Americans complained in Iraq that the British in Basra too often referred to the lessons of Northern Ireland in dictating how the insurgency should be handled. <br />
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A bomb disposal specialist from 33 Regiment Royal Engineers was killed by an explosion near Gereshk in central Helmand province on Sunday, the Ministryof Defence said yesterday. He was part of the Counter-IED (improvised explosive device) Task Force and the 97th member of the Armed Forces to die in Afghanistan this year.</div>

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My name is Philip and I'm 22 years old. I collect camouflage uniforms. Check out my homepage: :)<br />
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			<title>Remembrance Day . Melbourne</title>
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These were taken at the Heidelberg Repat ( Veterans) Hospital where they have a beautiful Garden of Remembrance. 
 
Mostly present were Aussie Vets , WW11 and Vietnam, and one old chap who was Wing.Comm of an RAAF Bomber Sqdn...</description>
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These were taken at the Heidelberg Repat ( Veterans) Hospital where they have a beautiful Garden of Remembrance.<br />
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Mostly present were Aussie Vets , WW11 and Vietnam, and one old chap who was Wing.Comm of an RAAF Bomber Sqdn that flew out of Lincolnshire. As you can see the Aussies encourage the school kids to attend and lay a Poppy as well as mixing with the Veterans afterwards. Tea and coffee/sandwiches are laid on afterwards.<br />
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Because our Association is pretty well spread out we gather at the nearest RSL local Shrines in our various suburbs.<br />
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Present with me.<br />
John Smith ( in specs) 25th Field Regt R.A. who provided support for 9th Battalion across Europe WW11.<br />
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Norman Howarth. 53 Light Regiment R.A. Parachute and Glider. Rhine Crossing.<br />
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Forbes Mcquitty Ex 2 Para 1968. Patrol Coy. NI. Belize. Some of you lads of that vintage may well remember him. ( sorry Forbes, can't remember your demob date right now)<br />
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Best wishes to you all<br />
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Mike</div>

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