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Frisco-Kid
05-07-07, 07:47
Hill 875

On 19NOV67 the paratroopers of 2/503, 173rd Airborne Brigade, were ordered up Hill 875 near Dak To, Kontum Province in the Central Highlands. A Mike Force unit had taken fire from this hill a couple of days before. Companies A, C, and D went up the hill. Companies C and D were in the lead, with company A bringing up the rear. The battalion hadn't advanced far before they came under intense fire.The 2 lead companies were pinned down, and A co. was cut off from them. Companies C and D were forced to group into a tight perimeter, unable to move in any direction. The troopers of A co. were on their own. After hours of intense fighting, often hand-to-hand, grenade throwing contests, and personal sacrifices, A co. finally made it up to the perimeter. 30+ troopers died that day, including my good friend Manny's little brother, 19yr. old Mario Alvarez Cisneros. Another paratrooper to die that day was machine gunner PFC Carlos Lozada of A co.. He would posthumously be awarded the CMH for staying behind to lay down covering fire, insuring his platoons escape. The battalion was together, but under attack from up the hill and down the hill. The NVA were lighting them up with RPGs, and mortars from nearby hills. It was a meat grinder. They reformed a defensive perimeter and dug in for the night. They called in airstrikes on top of the hill. During a bombing run, a 500lb. bomb was accidently dropped on their position about 2000hrs. that night. It hit near where the wounded were staged. The blast killed 40+ paratroopers that night. One of them was Chaplain Major Charles Watters, who had spent the day encouraging his troopers and helping to care for the wounded. He, too, would be awarded the Congressional Medal Of Honor. So went the 1st day on Hill 875.

The 2/503 wouldn't be re-enforced until the evening of the 20NOV by the 4/503. There were no good, or secure, LZ's so they had to hump from their nearest FSB. That had to be the scariest night of those trooper's lives. I HATED moving around in the bush at night.

The next day, 21NOV, the 4/503 and the survivors of 2/503 tried to make an assault up the hill. It was an all day battle, but they were pushed back.

On the 22NOV, under the cover of an arty barrage on the top of the hill, they were finally able to get re-supplied and their wounded med-evaced. Units of the 4th ID had been at the bottom of the hill as a blocking force. They began to move up the hill. A good frind of mine, Ron W., was an RTO in the 4th. He said that as an RTO, he had never had to shoot his weapon so much before or after Hill 875.

On 23NOV67 the Sky Soldiers launched another assault up the hill. They met little resistance. Charlie had simply un-assed the hill. It always amazed me how they could often do that. Just sneak off. When they got to the top of the hill, they found it to be a fortress. There were well built bunkers connected by tunnels and fighting trenches. They found a large cache of weapons and ammo left behind. It was all hidden to aircraft by the triple-canopy jungle.

Then came the mop up. Ron said he filled a body bag with nothing but body parts at one point. Some of the dead troopers from A co., further down the hill, had been shot in the head, execution style.

A couple of months after the battle, I met 2 troopers at Bragg that had just shown up after a tour with the 173rd. They were both survivors of Hill 875. At first they didn't want to talk much about it. I could tell that they were still very affected by it. But after I bought a couple of rounds they loosened up a little bit. It also set them at ease when I told them that I had fought in the same AO with the 101st the year before. As far as I know, Dak To, and Kontum to the south, was never pacified, and remained a dangerous place the whole war.

The cost for Hill 875 was high. During the 5 day battle, the 173rd had: 33 MIA; 158 KIA; and 411 evacuated WIA.

As far as I know, this was the only battle in the war that produced 2 MOH recipients.

BTW; the numbers given to hills were their heights in meters. The Central Highlands was some of the steepest country I have ever been in.

Frisco-Kid
05-07-07, 08:10
"For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Chaplain Watters distinguished himself during an assault in the vicinity of Dak To. Chaplain Watters was moving with one of the companies when it engaged a heavily armed enemy battalion. As the battle raged and the casualties mounted, Chaplain Watters, with complete disregard for his safety, rushed forward to the line of contact. Unarmed and completely exposed, he moved among, as well as in front of the advancing troops, giving aid to the wounded, assisting in their evacuation, giving words of encouragement, and administering the last rites to the dying. When a wounded paratrooper was standing in shock in front of the assaulting forces, Chaplain Watters ran forward, picked the man up on his shoulders and carried him to safety. As the troopers battled to the first enemy entrenchment, Chaplain Watters ran through the intense enemy fire to the front of the entrenchment to aid a fallen comrade. A short time later, the paratroopers pulled back in preparation for a second assault. Chaplain Watters exposed himself to both friendly and enemy fire between the two forces in order to recover two wounded soldiers. Later, when the battalion was forced to pull back into a perimeter, Chaplain Watters noticed that several wounded soldiers were lying outside the newly formed perimeter. Without hesitation and ignoring attempts to restrain him, Chaplain Watters left the perimeter three times in the face of small arms, automatic weapons, and mortar fire to carry and to assist the injured troopers to safety. Satisfied that all of the wounded were inside the perimeter, he began aiding the medics ... applying field bandages to open wounds, obtaining and serving food and water, giving spiritual and mental strength and comfort. During his ministering, he moved out to the perimeter from position to position redistributing food and water, and tending to the needs of his men. Chaplain Watters was giving aid to the wounded when he himself was mortally wounded. Chaplain Watters' unyielding perseverance and selfless devotion to his comrades was in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army."

Chaplain Watters became a legend throughout all of the Airborne units. Notice that the official citation for the Congressional Medal Of Honor doesn't mention that Chaplain Watters was killed by friendly fire.

03Fox2/1
12-07-07, 14:56
Tom,
Thank you for reminding the world of such a battle. The history books don't say enough about the bravery and sacrifice of the common soldier, the men who fight and die, only to become forgotten by an indifferent nation. Like you, I will always pay homage to these unknown heroes who died for our country. It is not popular in America to remind people that they should not confuse the war with the warrior who fought it. The merits of a war matter little to the man who follows orders and risks all and sometimes pays the ultimate price. Often, he becomes just another footnote in someone's selective memory. To those of us that know the truth, it is incumbent that we not let this happen. It is my honor and my legacy as a survivor, to remind people that freedom is indeed, not free.
I am in your debt for posting and re-posting this battle on this site and others. Thank you for keeping the faith.
Semper Fidelis

Reloader
13-07-07, 23:59
As far as I know, this was the only battle in the war that produced 2 MOH recipients.



Tom, thanks for this account.
I was reading more about Dak To & Hill 875 in the book, 'Sky Soldiers', by F. Clifton Berry Jr. and it states that there were three Medals of Honor awarded for heroism during the battles at Dak To.

Maj. Charles J. Watters:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/watters.htm

PFC John A. Barnes III:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/barnes.htm

PFC Carlos J. Lozada:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/lozada.htm

Frisco-Kid
21-07-07, 07:17
Tom, thanks for this account.
I was reading more about Dak To & Hill 875 in the book, 'Sky Soldiers', by F. Clifton Berry Jr. and it states that there were three Medals of Honor awarded for heroism during the battles at Dak To.

Maj. Charles J. Watters:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/watters.htm

PFC John A. Barnes III:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/barnes.htm

PFC Carlos J. Lozada:

http://www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil/moh/lozada.htm



Reloader, thanks for the URLs. The 173rd was in the Dak To AO [Area of Operation] for quite awhile, and were involved in several big battles in the area. PFC Barnes died in one of the other ones, not the battle for Hill 875.

Reloader
22-07-07, 22:56
Thanks for clarifying that, Tom. The book just specified 'Dak To'.

Brasso
29-07-07, 23:04
I believe I have some pictures from 875 in my gallery. My war buddy from C/75/RGR . Jerry "Rocky" Stone was a MG in the 4th Bn and there is a picture of him leaning against a tree with his head down. I added the patch & text for him.

He went through 3 MG's since he was with the lead assault and there were only 6 survivors from his PLT. He was in the Documentary that has been recently sent to all VFW members as the first edition to a series of Vietnam related videos. I videoed it off my TV and sent the tape back, since I've seen about every video ever made.

I haven't been around lately since I have been trying to learn how to produce my own videos and now have 2 of them on YOU TUBE. The channel is http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=springer94 which takes you to the main channel that provides info/credits on the two videos I have on there now. To play a video, click on the TITLE below the screen.

The first is a tribute to all who made the supreme sacrifice & to Honor my Fallen Brothers in the VIET NAM VETS M/C. It's called, CIRCLE ON THE CROSS. and ROCKY's picture on the day they took hill 875 is on that one.

I then made "SOME GAVE ALL" which is dedicated to all the men who were KIA in my last unit in Vietnam, E CO (LRP) 20TH INF (A) & C CO (RGR) 75TH INF (A) FIRST FIELD FORCE VIETNAM. I'm one of the co-founders and original historian for the unit #0003, which is now at
http://www.e20-c75th-rangers-association.org/forums/index.php

Check my Gallery under Brasso and I believe you'll find some interesting pics.

"AIRBORNE"
RLTW

03Fox2/1
30-07-07, 15:58
Brasso,
A great tribute to your fallen brothers and the Rangers, past, present and future. I have had the pleasure of becoming a member of your Ranger site, thanks to an invitation from Rocky. Alas, I am going through one of my withdrawal stages and I have not contributed much lately to anybody. The ups and downs of life have become too predictable for me and even though I realize that going it alone is a prescription for failure, I must be who I am and not what others want me to be. I am touched by both of your videos and as you can see, they have moved me to speak some of what is inside of me. Thanks for keeping the faith.
Best regards from a reverent grunt Marine.
VietNam, 1968-69, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines, Foxtrot
Semper Fi Bro

Brasso
14-08-07, 06:10
03fox2/1. Yes I know the feeling. Rocky , myself and several other brothers from E/20/LRP & C/75/RGR opened a PTSD web site for about a dozen members who we knew from being in another similiar site.

That site became uncontrolable, so we branched out on our own. This was around the same time we opened our new web site and Rocky, myself and a couple other guys from the PTSD site were appointed Moderators and were also given certain areas that we were responsible for developing and maintaning. Having been the original unit historian and at the time I was the Historical Advisor, I was naturally given the unit's history section.

I've also maintained the KIA list for several years, so I was given the task of developing that section also. However due to some cyber-mystery I was always being made to sign in whenever I hit submit or reply.

We totally deleted all my info and re-entered it and it was still doing it.

It was the only site on the internet that it would do that and I was the only member on the site that had this problem.

After consulting with 4 on line computer guru sites, who all came up with the same answer; it has to be in the host site not my PC that's causing this to take place, however our webmaster could find nothing.

So, I had no choice but to retire from the site since it was impossible for me to comlete the tasks.

When I went into the video system, I finally produced what I had planned for the website, when I made the video "SOME GAVE ALL", a tribute to all our KIA's.

I also had the same type of idea to present the history in that type of format. We all know how boring reading a units history on a web site can be, so I felt if there were pictures to coincide with the times/places being discussed throughout the history, more people would be inclined to "WATCH" it in a video format rather then read it.

The unit could actually link into my videos and all a member would have to do is click onto the URL link and the KIA video would come up.

I offered them to do that, however they have chosen to make their own video, which is their call.

I have asked Bombadier to check out my videos and he did and he enjoyed them both.

I am now in the process of learning how I can either embed or create a link to the "SOME GAVE ALL" video to link to this site.

I'm still researching how I can do it. I just can not find the right answers at this time.

Rocky is a mountain of information and an expert on anything to do with PTSD. However he's consumed, as I was by the unit web site and is harldy posting here at all.

As I told Bombadier, I want to get my video on this site and continue to update my photo album and then get into the Blog system.

He, Bombadier is as dedicated as they come and I'm not sure many realize it, but besides a few advertisers, he pays to keep this site going.

I recently found out that any member can donate as little or as much as they want by going to the pay pal on the main page and sending money via pay pal as a donation.

Just think what a difference $10-$20 per member could make on his task of maintaing this site.

I know I'm sending in a donation ASAP. I hope the rest of the members try and do the same.

"SALSA"

03Fox2/1
16-08-07, 19:20
Brasso,
I do know of the effort made by you and others on your Ranger site to provide information and assistance to those in need of it, in regards to PTSD and survivors guilt. You are to be complimented for caring so much about not only those of us from previous wars, but also those that currently serve and fight for our country in Iraq and Afganistan and elsewhere.
I have exchanged some thoughts with one of your moderators and I was impressed with the amount of insight and compassion displayed by all concerned on your forum. I do, as a Marine grunt, feel welcome there.
I have withdrawn and regrouped and circled the wagons again, on my end of the equation, so I'm not actively participating in any discussions about myself with anyone other than myself. Time will pass, if not heal, and I will eventually return to a pursuit of mutually beneficial and respectful dialogue with my combat brothers. I try to speak for those that can no longer speak for themselves and sometimes, unfortunately, that includes me. In the mean time, keep up the interesting contributions to this site and your own. I believe Bombardier and you and Rocky have exceptional military sites that I have enjoyed interacting with.
Semper Fi

Bombardier
09-02-08, 10:28
I have been asked by email if tours of Hill 875 and Hamburger Hill are available via any tour operators and if so which would be the best to use.



Any of our VN vets help here ?