The STG45 Assault Rifle

[Braith-Wafer]

Did this weapon ever see frontline action?, It seems so since i found this image.

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/1/STG451.JPG

[Bombardier]

The STG45 was (if im not mistaken) a cheaper model than the STG44 and I doubt it ever saw action with the whermacht as (if my information is correct) only parts for about 40 weapons were ever produced..... I could be talking bollocks and if I am somebody please let me know....... (Y)

The image itself doesnt confirm front line usage IMHO.

[Braith-Wafer]

Not sure, but i think its production stopped due to the german surrender/lack of materials/funds etc. I like its 'SMG simplicity' which would make it cheaper, easier to produce, maintain etc and would be ideal for a poor nation/this country due to the 'defence cutbacks'.

Its rof was slightly slower but at least saves ammo and helps accuracy, Much like the LaFrance dual gas port modification for the M4 carbine designed to slow down the rof for accuracy purposes.

If i could, I would have them put back into production since 7.92 rounds are still manufactured in some parts of the world. Just becouse this weapon is old, It doesnt mean its kak.

Another advantage of the Delayed Blowback system, It has smaller operation space. I dont like the thought about gas operation since it needs an external tube to unlock the bolt. Ok i still 'accept them' or 'use what im given' but by choice, I prefer the blowbacks.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2346/opspacehy4.jpg

[Stoats]

The place where you stole that photograph from explained that it was a CAD model photoshopped onto a photograph of a re-enactor posed for the purpose.
Given that there were only very few prototypes of the Gerät 08 made, of which I have handled and stripped one, none of them actually saw service.
You have also had explained to you the disadvantages of delayed blowback operation on another one of your bone threads here (which you subsequently ignored), the only advantage being that it is cheap.
You'll also find that the required 7.92 x 33 mm cartridge is not currently produced anywhere in the world, and has not been for quite some time, as far as I'm aware, especially as the few rifles in this calibre in civilian hands I know of our road by people who used 1950s production East German, or who go to great lengths to reload . A German manufacturer who is about to market reproduction STG 44's in the original chambering is trying to get some made up, but I don't currently know who will be doing it. Given that Prvi Partizan is currently advertising cases for this calibre, I would assume it is them. They are not, however, advertising the correct bullets. Given that Yugoslavia used the STG 44 for its paratroopers up until the 1980s, I would assume that they had the cartridge in production most recently.
The design of the STG 45 was used as the basis for the CETME, which was further modified into the G3 (the German Army's second choice rifle).
Since this thread has now not gone your way, I assume that you will ignore it like you have all the others. Why do you do that?
Further: so sorry that you were banned on the Arrsepedia, such a tragic loss...

[Stoats]

Another advantage of the Delayed Blowback system, It has smaller operation space. I dont like the thought about gas operation since it needs an external tube to unlock the bolt. Ok i still 'accept them' or 'use what im given' but by choice, I prefer the blowbacks.

The small arms designers of the world appear to disagree with you: does this not tell you something?


Also, any theoretical "advantage" of a "smaller operation space" is double, triple, offset by the fact that the breech block has to be significantly heavier than for gas operation, causing more weight to shift around during firing.
But, having fired nothing more than a cadet GP rifle, you wouldn't know that.

[Cutaway]

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Another advantage of the Delayed Blowback system, It has smaller operation space. I dont like the thought about gas operation since it needs an external tube to unlock the bolt. Ok i still 'accept them' or 'use what im given' but by choice, I prefer the blowbacks.


You 'accept them' or 'use what you're given,' eh ?

When do you get issued military weapons ?
Have you recently enlisted ?
Which Regt/Corps are you in?
Where did you do basics ?

If you really have joined I'm sure the armourer will be relieved that he doesn't have to indent for a specific race gun, and that you'll deign to accept the wpn he issues.

[Braith-Wafer]

Im a para ninja serving in the Jungle combat squad of the Columbian navy SEALS. I went to war last week against the Moldovian Spetsnaz brigade of Rambos.laughsol;

In other words cutaway, M.Y.O.B.

[Cutaway]

Im a para ninja serving in the Jungle combat squad of the Columbian navy SEALS. I went to war last week against the Moldovian Spetsnaz brigade of Rambos.laughsol;

In other words cutaway, M.Y.O.B.

To be closer to the truth what you should have written was:

I will never be issued weapons, military or otherwise.

I am not permitted to enlist and am therefore not part of a Regt or Corps, nor will I ever start basics.

My military career will always consist of being asked to leave the Cadets in Merseyside in about 2000/20001, and when I went to the Army Careers Office I failed my psychometric tests.

My weapons designing skills I taught myself from computer games, and my best designs I drew in my school exercise books when I should have been paying attention to the teacher.

I am now known amongst the British Army community as a Space Cadet and the closest I will ever get to weapons in future is on an internet website.

Here is a picture of me with my most famous 'invention' --> minigun;


In other words Cutaway, I am still an adolescent window-licker even in my twenties.

There, isn't that so much closer to the truth than your last post ?

[Braith-Wafer]

Get stuffed Cutaway.

Anyway, back to topic, Here is the webpage with the restrike MP40s, MP3008, Stg44s. Semi auto only as they are on the civvie market.
http://www.marstar.ca/

[Cutaway]

Get stuffed Cutaway.

The truth hurts, eh ?

Anyway, back to topic, Here is the webpage with the restrike MP40s, MP3008, Stg44s. Semi auto only as they are on the civvie market.
http://www.marstar.ca/

Restrikes ?
They're not badges, nor are they produced on original tooling.
They're newly manufactured semi-auto wpns, the designs of which "incorporate fire control groups (bolts, trigger mechanisms, sears, etc) which are incapable of automatic fire, not interchangeable with, and not compatible with full-auto parts."


Anyway, back to your porkies.
Why do you still claim to serve, or have served, in the Army when you have never done so ?

Date of Birth:March 17, 1986
Age:21
Location:Scousenation, United Kingdom
Service:Army

[Drone_pilot]

Gentelmen can we please all remember this is a forum for military images, and discussion of same. we know that from time to time things can get a little heated, and we will cut you a little slack as such.

but can you now get back to the discussion in hand.
or i will lock this forum.

[Cutaway]

Good point Drone_pilot.
I'll let the walting subject stand on this thread and return to the topic, although Stoats has already answered the original 'question.'