Your Yank friends across the pond...

[82Rigger]

...have been following the "fake photos" developments with great interest.

But most of us are not familiar with The Daily Mirror and its owner/operator.

Could someone help us out there a little, please?

Allow me to add that while we are pleased that the photos proved to be fake (we do wish OURS were) we are, like you, incensed that British lives are endangered for the price of a headline. At least that is our understanding of it. It seems to us that the paper needs to bring forth the source of the photos.

Cheers!

[Bombardier]

Hi Rigger, Piers Morgan is a stinking and self motivated maggott who has no regard for accuracy, only the sale of his newspapers regardless of the cost.

Heres some more (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0%2C3604%2C1211204%2C00.html)

:?

[tosh66]

Hi Rigger, Piers Morgan is a stinking and self motivated maggott who has no regard for accuracy, only the sale of his newspapers regardless of the cost.


Hear, Hear Bomb!
Rigger,- The Daily Mirror is a tabloid newspaper with traditional socialist leanings. I work in a traditional left wing industry and most of my colleagues will not buy that unpatriotic rag ever again. But it has to be said, on the U.S. pictures, what on earth was that woman England thinking of?

[Drone_pilot]

Hi rigger,
the daily Mirror at one time use to be the only paper that could be depended onto tell the truth.

but it became influenced by money and by there by hangs a tail.

[Bombardier]

what on earth was that woman England thinking of?

I think I heard recently that she is saying she was following orders from "The chain of command" but would not name the people who gave the orders.

I dont know?, she didnt look like a pressed woman to me. More like she was having fun with her buddies. But still.. what do I know. :roll:

[Bill Farnie]

what on earth was that woman England thinking of?

I dont know?, she didnt look like a pressed woman to me. More like she was having fun with her buddies. But still.. what do I know. :roll:

I also think she was into doing the things she did. She said she was ordered/told to smile in the pics. Take a real good look at them. That's not a forced smile, it's a smile of delight.

[Bombardier]

I agree bill, if so then she really needs to get some help. :?

[82Rigger]

I don't think England was FORCED to participate in that stuff...but I do believe that she was CONVINCED that it was okay "because it's for intelligence gathering".

I firmly believe that activity was orchestrated by intelligence operatives. Those pics contain all the elements of such operations.

England's unit was stationed in several other prisons at the same time. That's the only prison that had the abuse problem. That also the only prison where intelligence operatives were present.

[Zofo]

If this is the case then no matter how appalling the pictures may look, the "int. operatives" have f***ed up royally. These prisoners are in some cases in company with others (in a pile of bodies it's possible to talk or whisper) and just the fact that there are other people close to you in the same situation is comforting. They couldn't see what the woman was doing with hoods on and I think at the end of the day they blew themselves a chsance at gathering intelligence.
I have been interogated, ballsed about, flexicuffed and bagged up. It ain't fun but if I knew there was another body next to me (often I did, I could hear them breathing next to me) my morale went a lot higher and gave me an attitude of Up yours bud, you get nothing from me. Of course, they wern't pulling toenails or beating us up. It's a sad case that elementary pyschology isn't at use in these situations. However humiliating getting photo'd like this is, the people are with others of their kind. Please don't think for a minute I condone this treatment, I just don't think the "operatives" knew quite what they were doing. A cynical military who control these people will probably find the scapegoats accordingly (England) and ensure that digital cameras are removed on entry to the prison for next time.

[tosh66]

[quote="82Rigger"]I don't think England was FORCED to participate in that stuff...but I do believe that she was CONVINCED that it was okay "because it's for intelligence gathering".

I firmly believe that activity was orchestrated by intelligence operatives. Those pics contain all the elements of such operations.

What about the recent pictures that have come to light that are unseen except to senior members of the U.S. They apparently show various sex acts involving soldiers and the like?

[82Rigger]

tosh,

The key parts to your question are:

"unseen except to senior members of the U.S." and "apparently".

All kinds of sex has been used by Intelligence units through-out the years by many different nations to obtain information.

It is not at all unusual for high level operatives to cover their "six" by letting someone else (lower-level) take the fall for their activities.

[tosh66]

Fair point Steve. Never believe anything until you see it with your own eyes. How many times have we been decieved in the past by media and or governments with their own agendas?