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03Fox, I had no big problem with you, as I stated earlier. I prefer not to hold gruges and see absolutely no reason to think ill of you. As I mentioned earlier I understood your intention though I did not agree on all points.
I would hope you would stick around, and would like to chat with you some more. I don't consider this incident being of your doing, you just got drawn into it, reasonably so. If I was in your position I might have done the same.
I accept your Appologies, and thank you for it. I really did not expect one from you. Again I did not think this was of your doing.
Yes Viet-Nam is amazing at the hold it has on all of us. I often wondered why. At this stage in life, it is less than 1 to 2% of my life and yet stills holds me at time too.
Again, 03Fox, I would hope you would hang around. It would be nice to get to know you under more pleasant circumstances. I hope we, all people here, can put this mess behind us and move forwards.
I too feel somewhat responsible and would want to appologize for those on the side lines, have to witness this mess. early I put one person on Ignore, that may have added to the intensity, my thoughts was to get in to some kind of meaningless flame war as I have seen on other forums. Maybe I did the right thing, I don't know.
03 Fox, Semper Fi, and hope to see you again,
Hollis
I would offer a suggestion. I have learned a long time ago the power of ignore. I do it for me mainly. If someone can draw me into a flame war, or enable me to use inapproriate language, or irritate the heck out of me I will put them on Ignore.
If someone does not like me, I would ask them to do the same. There is no reason for people leaving, IMHO.
Hollis,
A very gracious response from you. I agree about moving on and not backwards. My past has far too great a hold on me, but I'm resigned to my place in this world as a survivor, it sure beats the alternative. Semper Fi
That is a MOST AFFIRMATIVE..........
Semper Fi
H.
John A Silkstone
10-08-06, 19:29
Well done lads, that's three of us that's happy. As I also would hate to see one of you go as you both have a large input on the site.
Silky
Bombardier
10-08-06, 19:40
Please please please dont leave us 03Fox2/1 your input on our site has been refreshingly honest and educational. Hollis has responded in a truly maginifcent and gracious way and hollis I commend you for it.
Disagreements are bound to occur from time to time and im glad that we made it through this one.
Stick around mate you will be sorely missed should you choose otherwise.
Semper Fi
UBIQUE
Per Mare Per Terram (Y)
03Fox, No kidding, we are often our hardest critics.
I think it is better to learn and move forward. Isolation will only reinforce itself. I live pretty much that way, the internet for me a way of is a being with others in a controlled manner.
I have made plenty of mistakes, some that would probably make a child look mature. I think for you to present a appology only reinstates that you are a man of character. If anything I know about the internet, that is very much needed. Again I hold no ill will against you or feel that you were the cause. I don't feel you need to condemn yourself. As I have stated, I understand your actions and may have done the same.
SF
H.
This is one of the main reasons I joined this site, if there is a problem, members can talk to each other like adults and not like kids.
The last thing we want to see are members leaving. I see posts like this bring people to the site because of the mature way in which all members are regarded.
Eagledriver
12-08-06, 06:47
Hollis, Well done and said, buddy. 03fox, Please stay with us, buddy. Both of you have contributed greatly to this site. All of this is over and done and needs to be put to rest.sal; sal; sal;
Bombardier
12-08-06, 20:08
no one should think more of me then Bill or less of him then me. Semper Fi
I for one can say with all my heart that I respect you both equally, as you say, your intentions were of the most honourable nature and that was most evident to me,I fully understand your purpose and admire it.
The purpose of this site is to honour all things Military but more so the Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of all Theatres of war and that is why I understand your motivation so easily. Politics, well they need to be discussed I suppose but what I do not like is discussing politics to the detriment of the acts of bravery that have been conducted throughout the years and even as we speak. I forget who said this, I think it may have been Bill but certainly one of our most respected VN Vets,and I quote "Hate the war, not the warrior"
Well I droned on a little too much there and risked going off topic slightly but..... Thanks to everyone for being so adult about all this.
Bill come on buddy start posting again, over the years you have become an integral part of this web site.
Sempr Fi
UBIQUE
Per Mare Per Terram sal; solthum
Guys, I came across this piece of wisdom recently and was thinking about using it in my signature. I think it might be appropriate to quote here:
'Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world.' - The Buddha.
Reloader,
Thank you for these powerful words of wisdom, very appropriate. I agree that words can both destroy and heal. I will add to this, that when someone expresses humor at the expense of someone else and reenforces negative stereotypes, perhaps harm is done, where none was intended. Semper Fi
Bombardier
13-08-06, 23:41
Andy,
I will venture to say that I have had the real honor of posting some of my many and varied thoughts and feelings from my war, on your site. I am in your debt for creating and maintaining such a compassonate place for discussion and interaction with so many others of like mind. You and your site are one of those few that has had a dramatic and positive effect on my recent attempt at going public with my many ghosts and demons from Vietnam. Rest assured, wherever my path leads me and whatever the eventual resolution of my mental stability, you will be remembered by me as one of the few that helped me overcome my own doubts about myself. Semper Fi
Thats a very nice thing to say mate, im glad you have found our site helpful and long may you do so.
Semper Fi
UBIQUE
Per Mare Per Terram
sal;
Reloader,
Thank you for these powerful words of wisdom, very appropriate. I agree that words can both destroy and heal. I will add to this, that when someone expresses humor at the expense of someone else and reenforces negative stereotypes, perhaps harm is done, where none was intended. Semper Fi
There is a reason why the tongue is guarded by the teeth. In early biblical writings it is called Lashon Hora.. evil speak. It is akin to murder. It violates about 26 commandments.
Mistakes are in our very act of being, the solution is simple to apologize and/or to move forward (to learn not to do it again). Evil on the other hand, is a act of depravity and the solution is still simple but often never seeked.
John A Silkstone
14-08-06, 08:06
Here is one of my own quotes
‘Evil is always in the mind of the perpetrator and never the recipient.’
Silky
A smart man once said, and I agree, "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement."
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